Message from @Ronin

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2020-03-24 17:09:14 UTC  

*down

2020-03-24 17:09:14 UTC  

@lereactionary Again, I'm in favor of immigration, not mass immigration.

2020-03-24 17:09:23 UTC  

okay but thats still gonna hurt workers

2020-03-24 17:09:33 UTC  

And the state has other ways to fix it, does it not?

2020-03-24 17:09:56 UTC  

probably, but you could also not import immigrants as well and do those things

2020-03-24 17:10:01 UTC  

@Koninos You asked for just one statistic so there's one:
> In March 2018, newspaper Expressen investigated gang rape court cases from the two preceding years and found that there were 43 men having been convicted. Their average age was 21 and 13 were under the age of 18 when the crime was committed. Of the convicted, 40 out of the 43 were either immigrants (born abroad) or born in Sweden to immigrant parents.[50] Another investigation by newspaper Aftonbladet found that of 112 men and boys convicted for gang rape since July 2012, 82 were born outside Europe. The median age of the victims was 15, while 7 out of 10 perpetrators were between 15 and 20.[51]

2020-03-24 17:10:24 UTC  

im in favor of immigration from countries that have a similar culture and economic devolopment as the US

2020-03-24 17:10:28 UTC  

like germany or france

2020-03-24 17:11:09 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert I see, thank you. Still though, you can't detect the rapists before you take them into your country.

2020-03-24 17:11:11 UTC  

then wouldn't it make sense to limit migration to nations from a similar culture?

2020-03-24 17:11:19 UTC  

True.

2020-03-24 17:11:31 UTC  

why bother taking in people from a nation that shares none of your ideas when you can also take people from a similar nation?

2020-03-24 17:11:56 UTC  

You can make assumptions basing on statistics though, however, it may lead to that "evil" of yours being done on the majority of arrivals.

2020-03-24 17:12:08 UTC  

It would be easier for an ~~incompetent~~ state. But in the case of Europe, the countries that have similar cultures aren't in war, and they don't have any refugees to give.

2020-03-24 17:13:47 UTC  

Speaking of "evil", isn't it "evil" to risk applying potentially ineffective education methods on immigrants from muslim countries, when it may result in someone getting gangraped?

2020-03-24 17:14:21 UTC  

It's better to leave them in hands that can handle their little issues.

2020-03-24 17:15:31 UTC  

That's the one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is the positive aspect of risking potentially ineffective education methods on immigrants. But I can't see how you link that with rapes?

2020-03-24 17:15:44 UTC  

And could you name the hands that can handle their "little" issues?

2020-03-24 17:15:50 UTC  

Turkey.

2020-03-24 17:15:55 UTC  

On their way and safe.

2020-03-24 17:17:01 UTC  

Turkey isn't safe, and if Turkey can handle their little problems, how can other, greater nations not?

2020-03-24 17:17:14 UTC  

Turkey has an iron fist

2020-03-24 17:17:22 UTC  

How's Turkey not safe? By what metric?

2020-03-24 17:17:50 UTC  

Is it at war with another country? Are they actively seeking to kill or oppress their fellows?

2020-03-24 17:18:12 UTC  

okay why burden ourselves with these problems

2020-03-24 17:18:16 UTC  

even if we can somewhat handle them

2020-03-24 17:18:25 UTC  

theres no reason if theres more pain than gain

2020-03-24 17:18:45 UTC  

Because we're *obviously* obligated to do so smh my head.

2020-03-24 17:19:05 UTC  

Aren't we sworn Repairers Of The World?

2020-03-24 17:19:26 UTC  

No turkey is not safe because Turks in Turkey are Untermensch

2020-03-24 17:19:37 UTC  

Turkey may not be in war, but it's extremely unstable and is led by Erdogan.

2020-03-24 17:19:43 UTC  

Being led by Erdogan = Not safe.

2020-03-24 17:19:56 UTC  

Ah, so we're saving muslims from Islam.

2020-03-24 17:20:01 UTC  

Wasn't there name for that?

2020-03-24 17:20:04 UTC  

and how is that my problem?

2020-03-24 17:20:21 UTC  

have sympathy kid

2020-03-24 17:20:26 UTC  

why?

2020-03-24 17:20:53 UTC  

I personally refuse.

2020-03-24 17:20:54 UTC  

they don't seem to have sympathy for me so why should I have sympathy for them?

2020-03-24 17:21:06 UTC  

That's what my moral code says, although I'm an atheist and I have no morals, as many say. But it's humane, natural and shows mental superiority.