Message from @Aftermath
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My bad.
Socialists advocate for the collective ownership of the means of production, socialism, which is the stepping stone to communism, classless, moneyless and stateless society, now stfu cunt @Aftermath
Anyway, I don't see 'communist' as a dirty word, it's just not something I would personally strive for (in today's world). Though, ideally, in a couple hundred years we'd have a communist society.
@Lekka I'd rather be called a socialist but I'm fine with being called a communist, it's not that bothering.
Why do you not want communism
I havent met many socialists who dont want the full package
>new account
your obviously just a fedposter/jew
lekka
Well, I do. But it's unachievable within the next 100 years. So I don't directly advocate for it. I advocate for immediate actions and policies we can enact which would bring us towards socialism, what future generations choose to do with that is up to them. @Lekka
Fuck
why did you make a new account
In 300 years or so? Yes I would want a communist society.
It got disabled due to phone number verification @Aftermath
Thank you for your civility.
Could you describe your ideal future, @Lekka ?
My accs get taken down all the time im on like my 6th acc this year
@Gracy why are you in a communist party then. just for aesthetics? replacing your lost sense of community?
I'm in the left. The left is in a party which, radically, has communists in it. I don't discourage my party (unless they engage in poor optics)
@Gracy you know that period in america during the gold rush/civil war where manifest destiny was in full swing? Ok that but in the 21st century and with fascists
Frontierism
Ig youd call it
Im not being 100% serious rn tho
ok but what do you think this party is actually going to achieve? surely you are not naive enough to think any genuine socialist or communist party is capable of being taken seriously in electoralism under the neo-liberal paradigm
What kind of fascist are you, Lekka?
Read roles
I want american futurism
wdym?
@Aftermath Case and point: Bernie Sanders. He's probably not going to win this year, but given his EXISTENCE and how long he's been in the running, he's already pushed the envelop so far.
Lekka doesnt actually understand what fascism is. he gets all his information from these like 4 books written in 2014 by an edgy group of larpers called Iron March who essentially have just played way too much DnD @Avgvstvs
Bernie is epic
what
I love Bernie
Aftermath, you're a National Socialist?
@Gracy are you retarded? bernie isnt a socialist. he doesnt advocate for worker ownership of the means of production, worker coops or anything of that sort. he is a welfare capitalist.
American futurism is a vision for the future in the americans. To briefly explain it its anarcho fascism but not really but that capturea the essence of it @Avgvstvs
@Avgvstvs I mainly just refer to myself as a fascist but i take a lot of influence from national socialism especially its naturalism
@Aftermath ive probably been ns for far longer than you and have read and done far more stfu cunt