Personally l will never support suppression of freedoms

?

Their freedom to hurt others?

it's mostly inexperience mixed with youthful stupidity, if you just make the test harder then what are you really changing?

Statistically somewhat irrelevant when young drivers are the bigger problem

I'm not at all against making the current tests harder.

By far

Yes but this has nothing to do with young drivers

I'm only discussing elderly and their lower reaction times

You're targeting groups based on age under the guise of "safety"

Are you denying that people get worse physically and mentally as they age?

You're saying that despite the wealth of experience elderly drivers may have amassed over their years of driving, they should be subjected to additional hoops to jump through to retain their ability to drive, neglecting the fact that many absolutely depend on this and won't be able to function without their license, all in the name of the highet likelyhood that they'll be involved in a crash than someone 10 years younger

Simultanously you don't want anything to change for the younger drivers

Since you brought up youngsters, the only point I'm trying to make is the fact that young people can do a lot in order to counteract their lack of experience and recklessness whilst the elderly can literally do nothing about getting slower as they age.

Who ate significantly more of a risk factor

Are

The young

It doesn't matter if they can do something when they don't

There is no incentive for them to and they clearly don't, hence they're more likely to kill someone on the road

Not every young driver is reckless and irresponsible.

Statiatically more of them are than old drivers

Every single old person has slow reaction times.

My spelling is awful

Is okay

It doesn't matter if old people have slow reaction times when the old people are far less likely to kill and maim others on the road

Like it's functionally irrelevant

Whether it's experience, hormones, mental stability or what, the fact is that a 20 year old driver is more likely to kill another person by their driving than a 75 year old

That is an absolute fact

They're not functionally irrelevant? They can and do hurt people although a lot less than the youngsters most of the time.

I'm not denying that

But what you're saying is you want to target a small group of people rather than the bigger, more dangerous group

Even though it disadvantages that small group far far more

And benefits fewer

There are a lot of old people who have to use their cars to get shopping, they can't walk far enough and/or don't have cab or public transport availability to do it any other way, nor can they afford deliveries or even use the technology properly to arrange them, they probably wouldn't pass a current test because they're older and slower, but they're also less likely than 22 year old joe who passed 5 years ago to crash

My targetting of dangerous users on the road isnt mutually exclusive to the elderly. Having slow reaction times as they get older is the only thing I'm trying to talk about, I believe the current laws do not do it justice enough.
Again, completely seperate with young people and their problems. Deal with the young and the elderly both.
I dont understand what you're saying...

Tough luck? If you cant drive responsibly whether that's because of old age, drugs or alchohol. That's a You problem.

Being slow has nothing to do with responsible driving

>They probably wouldn't pass a current test because they're older and slower.

YES! That's why they shouldn't be allowed to be on the road. That's the point.

I disagree

What.

Things change over time, I'm not even middle age and I doubt I'd pass the test here as it is now, the test now is vastly different from when i passed my tests