Message from @LOGiK

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2020-02-15 04:20:57 UTC  

An elderly person unfit to drive responsibly is the same as a person under the influence. Both of them make it so they're incapable of driving responsibly.

2020-02-15 04:21:10 UTC  

You're kinda wrong there

2020-02-15 04:21:50 UTC  

The way the law works regarding intoxication is that it is voluntary, thus the outcome of behaviour while intoxicated has been chosen

2020-02-15 04:22:07 UTC  

Even if they didn't intend to do something while drunk

2020-02-15 04:22:11 UTC  

They chose to drink

2020-02-15 04:22:16 UTC  

Aging is involuntaru

2020-02-15 04:22:18 UTC  

And aging and getting frail isnt voluntary. It happens to everyone.

2020-02-15 04:22:21 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-15 04:22:26 UTC  

You can stop drinking

2020-02-15 04:22:29 UTC  

You cant stop aging

2020-02-15 04:22:39 UTC  

Which puts it in a similar category to a disability

2020-02-15 04:22:52 UTC  

Okay words

2020-02-15 04:23:13 UTC  

People with disabilities that prohibits them from driving responsibly should not be able to drive

2020-02-15 04:23:26 UTC  

There are not many of those

2020-02-15 04:24:03 UTC  

The vast majority of old people are... old people?

2020-02-15 04:24:10 UTC  

driving without a license and is the same as driving under the influence, it's illegal. do it, prepare for the hurting

2020-02-15 04:24:51 UTC  

I mean not many conditions preventing driving

2020-02-15 04:25:03 UTC  

You can hold a license without an eye and without limbs

2020-02-15 04:25:16 UTC  

Vehicles usually are adapted to compensate

2020-02-15 04:25:19 UTC  

If you can prove you're able to pass the current tests

2020-02-15 04:25:23 UTC  

Though not with eyes

2020-02-15 04:25:33 UTC  

And you said old people shouldn't need to prove themselves lol

2020-02-15 04:25:42 UTC  

How dangerous do you think one eyed people are on the road without depth perception?

2020-02-15 04:26:07 UTC  

In an emergency incident do you think they will be able to see and react anywhere near as well as a person with two eyes?

2020-02-15 04:26:17 UTC  

Probably not?

2020-02-15 04:26:38 UTC  

How much of a delay do you think cars with controls entirely for hands creates in an emergency situation

2020-02-15 04:27:02 UTC  

People aren't really tested for emergency situations because you can't properly simulate them in a test environment

2020-02-15 04:27:15 UTC  

Nobody's reaction speeds are tested for licenses

2020-02-15 04:27:18 UTC  

They shouldn't be able to drive then?

2020-02-15 04:27:25 UTC  

Too bad they can

2020-02-15 04:27:26 UTC  

Yes everyone's reaction speeds are tested

2020-02-15 04:27:32 UTC  

How?

2020-02-15 04:28:48 UTC  

A lot of states just have you drive around the block and park and you get a license, along with a basic exam on road signs and shit

2020-02-15 04:28:55 UTC  

Reactions aren't tested at all

2020-02-15 04:29:20 UTC  

that why you do the advanced driver training, i did 3 of them

2020-02-15 04:29:23 UTC  

So the laws are stupid and obsolete

2020-02-15 04:29:36 UTC  

The UK has hazard perception, but that doesn't test reactions as much as it tests awareness and is such a controlled test that it's not realistic

2020-02-15 04:30:12 UTC  

The EU can't adequately make a reaction test for driving as it would end up conflicting with human rights and anti discrimination laws

2020-02-15 04:30:59 UTC  

but driving a vehicle isn't a human right

2020-02-15 04:31:21 UTC  

Well my position remains, if you've never been properly tested (that obv includes reaction time especially in emergency situations) you are a danger to yourself and your surroundings. You should not be able to drive and your license is useless to me.

2020-02-15 04:31:45 UTC  

I dont care if the laws of your state/province are retarded