I never said it was perfect, it's just the only system that sort of works

we already tried the feudal system

monarchies

it's the only system which works until we begin to transition to socialism

just remember something, not all prices are paid with money

what sort of price did people in Singapore pay to have no more homeless on the streets?

@LadyAquanine history was like this. Feudalism to laissez faire capitalism, laissez faire capitalism to mixed economies currently, mixed economies to ________?

@LadyAquanine what do you mean?

when a social program is enacted, there needs to be money to support it

the people being supported by the program are not gonna be paying it, so who is?

people paying taxes

out of our treasury, butvthe tax rate here is much lower than other nations

that leads to having less money to spend with your paycheck, and it gets ugly when 80% of your paycheck goes towards taxes

and people are still homeless in said nations

you end up not having as much money for anything, really

we do

another price you pay is losing certain freedoms

we already are paying a price for having internet where people watch you all the time whether you know it or not, people want to hack you to steal your money or spy on you, and you can get censored at any time

true

how old are you?

in Scandinavian countries, you're not allowed to do certain things that would be nothing in countries outside that sphere, you have to do tons of paperwork, and you have a Person Number so they can track everything you do, and you can't go anywhere without it

I am 32

Scandinavian nations are globalist hotspots to propagate their propaganda

oh, I'm exactly half your age lol

fascinating

you know more about any of this stuff than the avg. person your age

people aren't big on the left-right divide here

it's not that polarised

thank God

I'm tired of it

it's scary, that we're in the middle of a cold civil war right now

I didn't even realize we had one going on until now

it's been going on, probably since the early 90s

a civil war in the USA would topple its global hegemony

normally I don't give much stock to the conspiracy theorists, but there has been a lot of talk in the underground

stuff that scarily sounds like it's happening right in front of us

even as a socialist I think I would support the conservatives

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globalists should be shot

that's mutual, isn't it?

they're traitors