Message from @Leiro レイロ

Discord ID: 502415745259667467


2018-10-18 09:35:49 UTC  

the first thing we have to do is remove international capitalism, after that we have to fix the broken society we live in.

2018-10-18 09:36:42 UTC  

your fairly okay for a right winger as well also

2018-10-18 09:36:54 UTC  

thank you

2018-10-18 09:36:59 UTC  

you're not so bad for a socialist

2018-10-18 09:37:02 UTC  

most people on the TRS watch infowars

2018-10-18 09:37:10 UTC  

and absolute cancer as well

2018-10-18 09:37:17 UTC  

I've never watched that, but I worry about what happened to them

2018-10-18 09:37:26 UTC  

you see that and wonder "Am I next?"

2018-10-18 09:37:51 UTC  

that's why corporations should be abolished

2018-10-18 09:38:02 UTC  

how are we supposed to organize businesses?

2018-10-18 09:38:14 UTC  

under socialism?

2018-10-18 09:38:17 UTC  

how are we to conduct trade?

2018-10-18 09:38:30 UTC  

the govt. had a lousy track record of handling businesses

2018-10-18 09:38:50 UTC  

they're better off staying out of it as much as coporations are better off keeping their noses out

2018-10-18 09:39:09 UTC  

trade should still be conducted under a free market

2018-10-18 09:39:15 UTC  

that's why Im market socialist

2018-10-18 09:39:36 UTC  

until we invent supercomputers capable enough to organise central planning and determine that its superior to the free market

2018-10-18 09:40:01 UTC  

supercomputers also solve the problem of SNLT.

2018-10-18 09:40:13 UTC  

I wouldn't trust those either

2018-10-18 09:40:26 UTC  

I've heard of societies run by computers, and it ain't pretty

2018-10-18 09:40:48 UTC  

Well, it's because computers aren't developed enough to handle immense calculations

2018-10-18 09:40:54 UTC  

it's not the math

2018-10-18 09:40:57 UTC  

it's the human factor

2018-10-18 09:41:02 UTC  

quantum computing could make it possible, as well as linear programming

2018-10-18 09:41:08 UTC  

human factor?

2018-10-18 09:41:22 UTC  

how's a machine supposed to know how to centrally organize a society of organic, imperfect beings who can think for themselves?

2018-10-18 09:42:00 UTC  

supercomputers only calculate economics and input and output of data as such.

2018-10-18 09:42:04 UTC  

they don't determine life

2018-10-18 09:42:06 UTC  

or society

2018-10-18 09:42:09 UTC  

or values

2018-10-18 09:42:15 UTC  

in a socialist system

2018-10-18 09:42:27 UTC  

so they would still be a tool for human masters

2018-10-18 09:42:36 UTC  

no, only for economics

2018-10-18 09:42:49 UTC  

everything else is the same

2018-10-18 09:43:02 UTC  

we obviously don't advocate for computers to rule as in every aspect

2018-10-18 09:43:16 UTC  

good

2018-10-18 09:43:18 UTC  

that would be scary

2018-10-18 09:43:28 UTC  

again, I've seen stuff like that on sci-fi shows

2018-10-18 09:43:33 UTC  

and in movies

2018-10-18 09:43:36 UTC  

and in books

2018-10-18 09:43:54 UTC  

true