Message from @MangoVibes

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2019-02-23 04:47:48 UTC  

You can't just make a wild speculation and pass it off as fact

2019-02-23 04:48:10 UTC  

Isn't that what you are doing when saying Jews killed Jesus as a fact?

2019-02-23 04:48:18 UTC  

It is still heavily disputed

2019-02-23 04:48:21 UTC  

no

2019-02-23 04:48:31 UTC  

the disputes are weakly founded

2019-02-23 04:48:48 UTC  

unless you can invalidate the Gospels your argument holds little weight

2019-02-23 04:49:11 UTC  

"Jesus was crucified as a Jewish victim of Roman violence. On this, all written authorities agree. A Gentile Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, condemned him to death and had him tortured and executed by Gentile Roman soldiers. "

2019-02-23 04:49:16 UTC  

This is from a christian site

2019-02-23 04:49:23 UTC  

So it's disputed even among christians

2019-02-23 04:49:30 UTC  

The Bible says otherwise

2019-02-23 04:49:41 UTC  

That is your interpretation of the bible

2019-02-23 04:49:52 UTC  

no

2019-02-23 04:49:56 UTC  

It is clearly stated

2019-02-23 04:50:13 UTC  

Matthew 27:24-26 King James Version (KJV)

24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.

25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged

2019-02-23 04:50:20 UTC  

Most Christians don't even believe this lmao

2019-02-23 04:50:34 UTC  

How can you interpret that as Pilate being the one to go out of his way to torture Jesus?

2019-02-23 04:50:37 UTC  

so?

2019-02-23 04:50:47 UTC  

Does the majority opinion now define truth?

2019-02-23 04:50:53 UTC  

I have no clue what a "Pilate" is

2019-02-23 04:51:13 UTC  

Well then you really have no business discussing this verse

2019-02-23 04:52:17 UTC  

@Obungus Totally did not report you to T7S

2019-02-23 04:52:26 UTC  

Trust&Safety

2019-02-23 04:52:26 UTC  

want a cookie?

2019-02-23 04:52:31 UTC  

Jesus was a Jew, all his followers were Jewish

2019-02-23 04:52:43 UTC  

So if Jews did kill him, most of them were not in support

2019-02-23 04:52:44 UTC  

Yeah

2019-02-23 04:52:49 UTC  

perhaps not

2019-02-23 04:52:53 UTC  

So?

2019-02-23 04:52:59 UTC  

It was not a matter of religion

2019-02-23 04:53:06 UTC  

Like I said, Jews are not inherently bad.

2019-02-23 04:53:07 UTC  

Them being Jewish had nothing to do with it

2019-02-23 04:53:08 UTC  

@Obungus I have discord hypesquad, so my account is verfied, my reports matter

2019-02-23 04:53:19 UTC  

real cool pal

2019-02-23 04:53:37 UTC  

I am trying to have a discussion here, please stop pinging me :)

2019-02-23 04:53:46 UTC  

Ok

2019-02-23 04:53:52 UTC  

This debate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/548729185217282068/Screen_Shot_2018-08-01_at_10.08.09_PM.png

2019-02-23 04:54:06 UTC  

So it was the people not liking Jesus that killed him. Not them being Jews

2019-02-23 04:54:12 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-23 04:54:15 UTC  

Most Jews were in favor of Jesus

2019-02-23 04:54:16 UTC  

the pharisees

2019-02-23 04:54:18 UTC  

well no