Message from @Ben Garrison

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2018-05-22 21:52:17 UTC  

Yes

2018-05-22 21:52:19 UTC  

its alot better

2018-05-22 21:52:24 UTC  

and not filled with corruption

2018-05-22 21:52:27 UTC  

and capitalism

2018-05-22 21:52:36 UTC  

Cuba has one of the best medical systems in the world.

2018-05-22 21:52:52 UTC  

China has an average to below average one because of mistakes made in it.

2018-05-22 21:53:30 UTC  

China is also systematically destroying corruption because ***they*** would be the first to tell you *their system has problems*.

2018-05-22 21:54:57 UTC  

Cuba also has a fucking huge amount of doctors.

2018-05-22 21:55:17 UTC  

It can fucking wave them around the world with no troubles they have so many.

2018-05-22 21:55:23 UTC  

In proportion to their population.

2018-05-22 21:56:32 UTC  

In fact, Cuba's medical system puts a third world nation under the same diseases and problems of a first world nation.

2018-05-22 21:56:48 UTC  

They have been modifying their system to accompany this fact.

2018-05-22 21:57:09 UTC  

It is a pretty popular saying that a Cuban lives as a poor man and dies as a rich man.

2018-05-22 21:57:50 UTC  

Compare that to China who is still trying to fix their butchered system.

2018-05-22 21:58:59 UTC  

And, even with a butchered system, their life expectancy has been improving constantly.

2018-05-22 22:02:28 UTC  

Trump's problems with China will not end anytime soon for you Trumpers. 2020 is almost the same year China plans to destroy poverty.

2018-05-22 22:02:57 UTC  

Even then, China would have not reached its full potential. 😉

2018-05-22 22:03:15 UTC  

That's a lot of poverty to destroy in two years

2018-05-22 22:03:40 UTC  

China is an ambitious country that does for its people what it says.

2018-05-22 22:03:57 UTC  

The polar opposite of the west.

2018-05-22 22:04:51 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Sinophobe, but there's a line between ambition and unfounded hopefulness

2018-05-22 22:05:47 UTC  

That is the goal of the current 5 year plan, eliminate what is left of China's poverty.

2018-05-22 22:06:48 UTC  

10 million out of poverty every year from 2016 to 2020.

2018-05-22 22:06:54 UTC  

That is the plan.

2018-05-22 22:08:56 UTC  

And even the private corporations have joined to help aid this goal surprisingly.

2018-05-22 22:10:02 UTC  

Well, mostly just Alibaba.

2018-05-22 22:10:12 UTC  

Not too surprising really even from a cynical perspective - rural poor dont make for great consumers

2018-05-22 22:11:09 UTC  

China is a Dictatorship of the Proletariat and the CPC builds its legitimacy on lifting people out of poverty and advancing to the next stage of Socialism.

2018-05-22 22:11:25 UTC  

The CPC has almost lost its legitimacy once under Jiang.

2018-05-22 22:11:48 UTC  

Jiang's consolidating of power was a mistake on Deng's part.

2018-05-22 22:12:08 UTC  

Nobody likes poor Toadman

2018-05-22 22:12:48 UTC  

Jiang still represented the DotP and made important contributions for future Chinese development though.

2018-05-22 22:13:14 UTC  

His policy of allowing Capitalists in the party and opening up more than was probably needed was a problem though.

2018-05-22 22:14:34 UTC  

Thoughts on Falun Gong, Wisent?

2018-05-22 22:14:54 UTC  

I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.

2018-05-22 22:15:06 UTC  

I don't speak on stuff I don't have enough info on.

2018-05-22 22:15:40 UTC  

Well the persecution thereof rather than the ins and outs of the practice itself

2018-05-22 22:16:48 UTC  

I'm still not knowledgeable enough, though I have heard some terrible shit about the Falun Gong so my bias would be on China's side.

2018-05-22 22:17:00 UTC  

What've you heard?

2018-05-22 22:17:40 UTC  

Some cult-like stuff. I'm not to sure on the validity of that though.