So why do you think it didn't happen if you don't know what's going on w the investigation

well I guess not the investigation per say but what the Democrats are speculating about

I mean do you believe it happened?

There isnt any evidence of "collusion" yet, but we'll just have to see what Mueller finds

IDK, the evidence seems to point that it did

Not really

If anything

If it did It shouldn't be used as a scapegoat for dems

Trump Tower meeting, but even then, it doesn't point to much

It's more of a bait-and-switch meeting, but they did intend to collude to exchange dirt which is an FEC violation, but nothing was exchanged

So whats the crime here to be examined really?

Mueller is gonna press Stone on his wikileaks connections to push for a "coordination" attempt accusation of sorts

What makes you believe that nothing was exchanged?

Wheres the evidence to show there was something exchanged?

If there was, it would've been leaked months ago

@IИVДLID CЯΞДΓIФИ +1, innocent til proven guilty not guilty til proven innocent

If the intention of the meeting was for exchanging dirt on Hillary then it's safe to assume the possibility of info being exchanged

Like im not defending trump here from 'deep state' actors or anything, im just talking about it from a logical and fact based stand point with what info is available rn

@Toro If there was, Trump's "Hillary bombshell presser" would've gone forward with whatever dirt was exchanged at Trump tower, but he never did hold that presser

That's a plot hole in your theory

Another plot hole in the Deep State conspiracy is that if they *did* wanted to take down Trump, why didnt Strzok, the FBI and Co. just release the PR bomb they crafted days before the election that they were investigating his campaign?

They didn't do that either

They did *after* the election

Yeah, but it doesn't matter if info was leaked. Attempted collusion is concerning

@Toro Sure it is, it was ill-advised and stupid

But no info was exchanged that we know of so far

The "collusion" accusations came after the election, not during the election

My concern is Russia's attempt to sway the election twords trump

Like I said, it shouldn't be used as a scapegoat for dems

But it has anyway

Sadly

Partisan warfare has essentially shrouded the Russia matter into "TREASON TREASON" or "DEEP STATE SHILL" and whatnot without closely examining the facts and assessing the legal ramifications of It all

Historically, (specifically Latin America) other countries swaying elections is not good. So I'm concerned about the truthfulness of this entire ordeal

Personally, I find Special Counsels to be appalling, rather, an independent commission with subpoena powers overseen by Congress is what should've been appointed not a special prosecutor

@Toro You should try reading the indictment the DOJ issued of 12 Russian military officers for meddling, it's interesting

They'll never be extradited of course, but its good Mueller rooted them out regardless

I would've been against a Special Counsel investigating Hillary as well

https://twitter.com/CNNTonight/status/1024849391553634304

for the sake of fuck the lack of self-awareness is mind blowing

for the fuck of sake

my way is my way