First viewpoint: I don't see myself as a male, and would prefer to not be defined as a male

(that's the short version)

Anyone have anything to say about that?

Okay, so I don't care what you see yourself as, and can't control how others define you, only how you define yourself. Not much of a challenge for you. Sorry, I let you down xD

No, that's good

That is like literally all I ask of people

And by i don't care, I mean you do you

Fucking exactly

Like let me do me, I'm not harming anyone by viewing myself as me before i identify myself as a male

I may personally wish that others would look at me as a person before they look at me as a male, white, etc

But I can't control them, nor do I have any right

I can make a request to them to do that, that's all

If they don't choose to follow it, well, they're an asshole, but they're not like the spawn of Satan

That's how I see people. As people.

See, I know people who would assume that everyone on this server is a crazy altright neonazi simply because they support Trump

But that is wrong on so many levels

I personally don't like Trump, I think the way he acts is completely unacceptable and embarrassing, that being said, Hillary is also bad

There was no good choice in 2016

You can have one corrupt democrat, or one corrupt republican

Like, I may not have agreed with all of John McCain's views, but I admired him, he was a good man

Just because he was a Republican doesn't mean he was evil

Same with Obama

I think the way Obama acted in the presidency is a great example of how a president should act

Again, don't agree with everything he did in office, but he is a good man

Trump, in my eyes, does not understand that there are a time and place to say things

Anyone have a counterargument?

Honestly, that's pretty much how I feel about it

I support trump, but yeah, I do partially agree with the last part

I judt disagree that Obama did things xd

He sometimes will say the perfect thing, but other times he says the most inopportune things possible

@Potion Seller Obama is probably an all around cool guy and nice guy but that's not why we should elect people and frankly it shouldn't matter.The guy was soft. Btw us Republicans hate John McCain he was a RINO

Obama's a scumbag for attempting to leach in the credit for the economy lol

and still does for over 2 years

Trump may have a big mouth but so far has it mattered? no

will it matter? Probably not

Another reason I support trump.

I remember telling a Libertarian friend of mine that I didn't vote for a saint when I chose Trump

I didn't want someone who was perfect and 100% good, nobody can live up to those standards (there's one guy, but he's not coming back for quite a while)

I wanted a warrior who would stand up for the American people that the elites had been either ignoring or stepping on

last thing we needed was the Wicked Witch of Chappaqua as our president, particularly our first female one

I'd just as soon slice my own throat than let her be president