Message from @Obungus

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2018-11-05 19:36:57 UTC  

Second point is reasonable, first one is unforgivably retarded.

2018-11-05 19:37:26 UTC  

If legal immigration was simply people coming and studying that would be one thing

2018-11-05 19:37:28 UTC  

but it isn't

2018-11-05 19:37:49 UTC  

It's mostly people coming from third world countries that add very little to the country

2018-11-05 19:44:47 UTC  

True and false. That is why I agree that there should be strict border control, to a reasonable extent... But to say that third world country immigrants are all useless is dense, many (obviously not all) are skilled people fleeing misfortune, racism, etc. South African Afrikaaners a good example of this! Many peach people here complete high school, study in England then move to America or they go to NZ, these people share your culture and the only difference between them and you is their accent. There are plenty people like that in Other places in Africa and Asia.
Just because Islam, "the religion of peace" exists doesn't mean you should right off the rest of the world. Just have a reasonable vetting process.

2018-11-05 19:45:19 UTC  

This has nothing to do with Islam

2018-11-05 19:45:27 UTC  

or Asians

2018-11-05 19:45:29 UTC  

or Europeans

2018-11-05 19:45:32 UTC  

or Africans

2018-11-05 19:45:39 UTC  

or any other minority of immigrants

2018-11-05 19:45:50 UTC  

this has to do with the majority of immigrants

2018-11-05 19:45:55 UTC  

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2018-11-05 19:46:13 UTC  

the mass amounts of Hispanics that immigrate, exploit, and refuse to assimilate.

2018-11-05 19:46:25 UTC  

You are ignoring my point

2018-11-05 19:46:32 UTC  

***Just have a reasonable vetting process.***

2018-11-05 19:47:45 UTC  

"reasonable" usually means letting anyone from anywhere come in if they meat certain qualifications

2018-11-05 19:47:55 UTC  

I don't want that

2018-11-05 19:48:02 UTC  

I want the borders mostly closed

2018-11-05 19:48:11 UTC  

Nah... Only if they "meet" them

2018-11-05 19:48:20 UTC  

But also, why?

2018-11-05 19:48:40 UTC  

To preserve the people we already have

2018-11-05 19:48:51 UTC  

Too late for thatπŸ˜‚

2018-11-05 19:49:00 UTC  

we don't need more and if we continue current trends the native population will be replaced

2018-11-05 19:49:44 UTC  

No, that's not how that worksπŸ˜‚
It's not displacement, it's dilution.

2018-11-05 19:50:14 UTC  

It is displacement

2018-11-05 19:50:18 UTC  

whether intentional or not

2018-11-05 19:51:00 UTC  

Ok, I guess there is away you could see it that way

2018-11-05 19:51:52 UTC  

Still, pretty economically suicidal... It's easy to tell who is safe, why be so extreme about it?

2018-11-05 19:51:53 UTC  

It may or not be a conspiracy, I doubt it is but that really makes no difference.

2018-11-05 19:52:09 UTC  

So that our way of life can endure

2018-11-05 19:52:30 UTC  

and so that our people are not eradicated due to being out bred in their own countries

2018-11-05 20:00:23 UTC  

"It may or not be a conspiracy"
No and yes... Have you read the Qu'ran? There is a conspiracy, they are commanded to convert or kill ***everyone***. And if you take some people with you when you die you get a better heavenly reward.
Then there are those who are honestly fleeing to the USA, but have no intention of assimilating, they just moved for the safety.
There are many other threats to your culture.

But closed borders are extreme. And "So that our way of life can endure
and so that our people are not eradicated due to being out bred in their own countries" Simply doesn't answer the question of why you are being so extreme. Those are reasonable concerns, not justifications for closed borders.

2018-11-05 20:00:55 UTC  

Those seeking refuge are one thing

2018-11-05 20:01:02 UTC  

but that is small amount of immigration

2018-11-05 20:01:09 UTC  

which is what you are choosing to ignore

2018-11-05 20:01:28 UTC  

most immigration is not from middle eastern people seeking refuge from jihadists

2018-11-05 20:01:40 UTC  

it's from mexico and the rest of south America

2018-11-05 20:11:34 UTC  

I'm not choosing to ignore those people, I just can't argue for them personally because I cannot relate to them.
And your phrasing makes it seem like your Mexican neighbours aren't seeking refuge? I can assure you most are likely doing just that.
I imagine their situation is likely similar to what we face here. Except over here we have more murder and rape per capita and most of our population is completely illiterate.
I have the same argument for them though. Just let the safe ones in. If you can't tell who is safe, then you have MUCH bigger problems

2018-11-05 20:50:45 UTC  

*destroys the global south*
β€œWtf why are there refugees and immigrants lol”

2018-11-05 20:51:37 UTC  

The absolute state of the American right

2018-11-05 21:28:29 UTC  

I don't care that they exist