Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼
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well you *impact* people's decision by electoral action.
So?
so you are putting yourself in that chair 🤔
you can't pretend to 'not want to be put in that situation'
but also simultaneously influence the decisions of people in that situation.
it's quite inconsistent
Again, I wouldn't voluntarily make the choice unless I was in a relationship where that was required. I do not like making decisions about life or death things.
"it's quite inconsistent" no
but you want to limit other people's 'choices' by well
No, I do not
electoral action
I am defining their actions
by limiting their choices 🤔
or 'legal' choices
no
I am defining their actions
Outlawing abortion is restricting choice. Unless youre arguing that you believe abortion is murder while also not wanting to outlaw it, which is a very personal problem you'd have to sort out
@Ben Garrison never thought i'd have a fascist agree with my reasoning lol
I mean it's impossible to argue it restricts choice. Some may argue, especially a fascist, that the restriction is a good thing but to say it isnt restriction is mind boggling
Not, it is not limiting their choice. You are free to break the law. There are just some consequences that you need to accept.
so your encouraging people to go against the justice system?
🤔 so the government interfering with people's personal lives no longer matters?
Also you'd be surprised, there's a wide variety of opinions on abortion among NatSocs
I just have a problem with conservatism not everything fits perfectly in place for me
pro choice
and the government not interfering with people's lives makes sense
pro life
and christian ethos morality makes sense together
but together
no that doesn't quite mix.
christian ethos morality (as in all lives/souls are valuable and you shouldn't 'destroy' one.)
@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 NO. What is wrong with you? Why are you pretending that I am making stupid suggestions?
I do not recommend black markets. I am saying that their existence mean that a law is not a restriction. Education or propaganda or what ever you want to call it are better restrictors. People question their actions more when they believe they are wrong.
People believe that before a certain point in pregnancy, the child is "not human" or "not living" so they are under the impression that this is not murder. Teach them otherwise and they will be less likely to attempt it!
man, in many ways i kind of feel proud of my survey, it got 50 responses and started a bunch of heated debates of people getting very angry at each other
lol
@An Elbow if your argument is based in reality it should be convincing in a logical sense
but when i try to logically analyse it
it falls apart.
Except the black market abortions are not nearly the same quality or level of safety as legal abortions in proper medical facilities. Outlawing abortion restricts the choice of the latter abortion, you really can't argue against that unless youve got some stats that not even the most ardent pro-life orators have conjured regarding black market abortions being just as safe
@Neon i feel there is some inconsistency is conservative thought.
I never said outlaw it though. Not once. I said pro choice is disgusting
"Not, it is not limiting their choice. **You are free to break the law.** There are just some consequences that you need to accept."
But if you believe that abortion is murder but that it need not necessarily be outlawed then you have a very warped concept of what should be illegal and what shouldnt
@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 "it falls apart."
Elaborate.
@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 well, no viewpoint or opinion is ever perfect.