Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

Discord ID: 447705676773326859


well you *impact* people's decision by electoral action.

2018-05-20 10:18:24 UTC  

So?

so you are putting yourself in that chair 🤔

you can't pretend to 'not want to be put in that situation'
but also simultaneously influence the decisions of people in that situation.

it's quite inconsistent

2018-05-20 10:19:54 UTC  

Again, I wouldn't voluntarily make the choice unless I was in a relationship where that was required. I do not like making decisions about life or death things.

2018-05-20 10:20:00 UTC  

"it's quite inconsistent" no

but you want to limit other people's 'choices' by well

2018-05-20 10:20:18 UTC  

No, I do not

electoral action

2018-05-20 10:20:28 UTC  

I am defining their actions

by limiting their choices 🤔

or 'legal' choices

2018-05-20 10:20:55 UTC  

no

2018-05-20 10:21:04 UTC  

I am defining their actions

2018-05-20 10:21:07 UTC  

Outlawing abortion is restricting choice. Unless youre arguing that you believe abortion is murder while also not wanting to outlaw it, which is a very personal problem you'd have to sort out

@Ben Garrison never thought i'd have a fascist agree with my reasoning lol

2018-05-20 10:22:06 UTC  

I mean it's impossible to argue it restricts choice. Some may argue, especially a fascist, that the restriction is a good thing but to say it isnt restriction is mind boggling

2018-05-20 10:22:06 UTC  

Not, it is not limiting their choice. You are free to break the law. There are just some consequences that you need to accept.

so your encouraging people to go against the justice system?

so like a black market?

🤔 so the government interfering with people's personal lives no longer matters?

2018-05-20 10:23:04 UTC  

Also you'd be surprised, there's a wide variety of opinions on abortion among NatSocs

I just have a problem with conservatism not everything fits perfectly in place for me
pro choice
and the government not interfering with people's lives makes sense

pro life
and christian ethos morality makes sense together

but together

no that doesn't quite mix.

christian ethos morality (as in all lives/souls are valuable and you shouldn't 'destroy' one.)

2018-05-20 10:25:52 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 NO. What is wrong with you? Why are you pretending that I am making stupid suggestions?
I do not recommend black markets. I am saying that their existence mean that a law is not a restriction. Education or propaganda or what ever you want to call it are better restrictors. People question their actions more when they believe they are wrong.

People believe that before a certain point in pregnancy, the child is "not human" or "not living" so they are under the impression that this is not murder. Teach them otherwise and they will be less likely to attempt it!

2018-05-20 10:26:04 UTC  

man, in many ways i kind of feel proud of my survey, it got 50 responses and started a bunch of heated debates of people getting very angry at each other

2018-05-20 10:26:20 UTC  

lol

@An Elbow if your argument is based in reality it should be convincing in a logical sense

but when i try to logically analyse it

it falls apart.

2018-05-20 10:27:34 UTC  

Except the black market abortions are not nearly the same quality or level of safety as legal abortions in proper medical facilities. Outlawing abortion restricts the choice of the latter abortion, you really can't argue against that unless youve got some stats that not even the most ardent pro-life orators have conjured regarding black market abortions being just as safe

@Neon i feel there is some inconsistency is conservative thought.

2018-05-20 10:28:20 UTC  

I never said outlaw it though. Not once. I said pro choice is disgusting

"Not, it is not limiting their choice. **You are free to break the law.** There are just some consequences that you need to accept."

2018-05-20 10:29:01 UTC  

But if you believe that abortion is murder but that it need not necessarily be outlawed then you have a very warped concept of what should be illegal and what shouldnt

2018-05-20 10:29:02 UTC  
2018-05-20 10:29:09 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 well, no viewpoint or opinion is ever perfect.