Message from @An Elbow
Discord ID: 487624317375610890
exactly
yes
I debated this retard
Shadowstitcher
Wot?
and since I can't post screenshots:
Shadowstitcher11Yesterday at 8:41 PM
Wanna hear a joke?
REPUBLICANISM.
Democracy and capitalism brings greed.
While communism takes from the rich and gives to the poor.
Everyone gets the same.
this is what we're up against
dumb. fuck.
How does that person stating facts make them retarded?
I find it hilarious how they claim it brings greed. Greed is inherited, it's evolutionary trait. To what extend - it differs. But it's not like others' people greed is stopping you from becoming wealthy yourself. Infact, becoming richer is easier now than it ever was (fact) and has risen more people out of poverty than ever.
Uhm. Wot?
Which part is confusing
That beginning part. You obviously have now idea what greed is.
intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
Do you think selfish and intense desire was not there? It has always been there, it is what has increased the fitness of particular species.
Ok, lets pretend you already knew that. Now think of the contexts of communism and capitalism until you make the connection. Don't type 'til you find the connection if you wanna look really smart.
....What.
mate what?
really?
What would it mean in the context of communism? Communism despices greed but that's like ignoring human nature.
exactly
Exactly
So saying capitalism brings greed is wrong. It is there to begin with.
No
***context***
More greed? Sure. But brings greed? No, it was already there.
Communism literally ignores human nature
Excuse me
I literally said ***context***. Do I need to teach you about logic?
You haven't explained anything so I see zero reasoning in your statements.
?
and dont be smuggy with me, not my fault you fail to explain yourself.
I didn't claim to explain anything and I'm not being smug. I literally gave you context and asked you to think
"how they claim it brings greed. Greed is inherited, it's evolutionary trait" Tell me what's wrong here.
Saying CONTEXT will not make it be false
What is wrong here is that you are ignoring context. Out of context that definition is still partially inaccurate. People are inherently greedy, but that doesn't mean people inherit it. It is part of the nature of anything of notable intelligence.
Context is immeasurably significant for determining what a word means. Example; generally saying "sex" would mean the action of reproducing, but given the right context, it is the gender of an animal or person, determined by physical attributes. Or even the act of determining gender.
In the context of the joke by Shadowstitcher11, communism doesn't cause greed for the average working idiot because everybody is equally poor. And capitalism is an extreme catalyst for greed because everyone earns a different amount. It's called extrapolating logic from a perspective. No matter how much of an idiot someone is, it helps to try see their logic so you can better understand them, especially if you plan to have an argument with them.
Lol, bunch of false accusations there. I'm not ignoring the context, what I've said is factually correct and you haven't pointed out what is wrong about my definition (you called me out on saying I have no idea what greed is) , rather you're changing the topic now - without defining what it actually is, you're just using word sementics. And your statement is wrong, communism can also "cause" greed - and it has been proven a lot of times via expending black market in USSR, despite state-control market. You need to know what the premise of the communism aka Karl Marx is - human is the product of the environment, not the genes. But that is false. And saying capitalism is an extreme catalyst for greed because everyone earns a different amount - yeah so what? My statement was that greed is something inherited (and you dodged that), inequality is not necesarily bad, especially in case of free market.
Congratulations, you misread everything making further any debate pointless.
And sex is not the action of reproducing btw, atleast learn how to get it right.