Surely No More Wars For Israel is something all true conservatives can get behind.

I disagree completely. Absolutes are not the way through that problem.

More logic just needs to be expressed

How can "more logic" be expressed, exactly?

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By expressing more logic. If someone asks for help... Check if they need it. Then check why they need it.... Etc, etc, etc.
Don't just believe and don't just ignore

Why not ignore something if it's just going to be a waste of time and resources?

Israel's problems aren't our problems

Nor should they have ever been, a bit too late for that now though.

Uhm... I never said you shouldn't. I literally just spoke about logic. "if it's just going to be a waste of time and resources" then it's not logical

"Israel's problems aren't our problems" out of context, you are completely correct

But context matters

And was invading Iraq logical?

From an American perspective? No. But from an Israeli perspective, absolutely.

Too bad they sucked us into it.

I don't know and nor do I care, I'm neither American, Israeli nor Iraqi

"From an American perspective? No. But from an Israeli perspective, absolutely." That is still out of context

@Esoteric Osamaist I said greatest ally in the Middle East

Never said greatest ally

Greatest ally is prolly the UK

Personally I prefer a nation of an ACTUAL religion of peace than all of its neighbors trying to kill it

But hey

I get it you like Iran it’s ok

The context is that there is essentially a shadow agency that influenced America to fight overseas at the behest of its interest. Essentially, being pupeteered into it by Neoconservatives of primarily Zionist persuasion, with dual loyalties. Take for instance this article for further information. "The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jul/17/iraq.usa

Which war

And continues to puppeteer it, when it comes to foreign policy.

Oh 2003 nvm

well if you think about it

Israel has been fighting with its neighbors since 1948

As an example, I'll give you a scenario:
If America viewed itself as a hero and superpower that needs to protect underdogs... And Zimbabwe had a massive growing military and started attacking Namibia without provocation... Then America would be obligated to help. In that context, helping the victim is no waste.

and for them to want some assistance from the US is normal

It's not the U.S.'s place to destabilize governments and induce anarchy for Israel, all that leads to is more refugees fleeing to the West.

Meanwhile Israel has an ethno-state.

"Meanwhile Israel has an ethno-state." relevance?

It’s a reaction to 11 other countries hating the only western country there

And it's done absolutely nothing to benefit America.

Israel are big guys, let them take care of themselves.

Yea

Big guys

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