Message from @sleepysclmsft

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2020-02-02 12:22:17 UTC  

you know elsa gate

2020-02-02 12:22:18 UTC  

If you call yourself a writer but you prioritize pushing your political agenda over creating a good story, you're not a writer, you're an activist

2020-02-02 12:22:20 UTC  

Though I really need examples of media so I can appreciate the point better

2020-02-02 12:22:24 UTC  

Yes Elsa gate

2020-02-02 12:22:35 UTC  

If it’s to develop a character I’m fine with it if not then I watch something else

2020-02-02 12:22:37 UTC  

just the concept of people pushing inappropriate themes on children to desensitize them to hard themes

2020-02-02 12:22:40 UTC  

That's exactly what I was thinking when you talked about making rape a fetish

2020-02-02 12:22:41 UTC  

like scat, rape, gore, abuse etc

2020-02-02 12:22:45 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-02 12:22:47 UTC  

i believe it's thje same concept

2020-02-02 12:22:54 UTC  

especially shows aimed towards teens right now

2020-02-02 12:23:01 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-02 12:23:06 UTC  

See 13 reasons why

2020-02-02 12:23:13 UTC  

The book was already a shitty one

2020-02-02 12:23:17 UTC  

Then they made it a show

2020-02-02 12:23:25 UTC  

i watch a lot of teen shows and they're FULL of directionless violence, drugs, sex

2020-02-02 12:23:26 UTC  

Then they made 3 fucking seasons about it

2020-02-02 12:23:32 UTC  

And truth be told I get really tired of activists pushing themselves to center stage using any backhanded methods, for example disguising themselves as entertainment

2020-02-02 12:23:34 UTC  

again it's okay if it's central to the story and it's shown realistically

2020-02-02 12:23:56 UTC  

Although I'd say euphoria has kind of integrated the vulgar parts for a narrative

2020-02-02 12:24:10 UTC  

Exactly

2020-02-02 12:24:17 UTC  

Like breaking bad or Euphoria

2020-02-02 12:24:39 UTC  

Has drugs and violence and sex, but made it a plot point

2020-02-02 12:25:00 UTC  

Instead of just putting scenes for the hell of it

2020-02-02 12:25:10 UTC  

Same for modern pop

2020-02-02 12:25:15 UTC  

Like the trash kind

2020-02-02 12:25:15 UTC  

i mostly don't like the idea of the stuff being brushed over as well too

2020-02-02 12:25:55 UTC  

Good story narrative devices are ones that start a path for the viewer to be engage

2020-02-02 12:25:55 UTC  

I'd say make it a proper plot point without making it too graphic or dismissive

2020-02-02 12:25:59 UTC  

like you'll see a teenager in a show get beaten, raped, and OD

2020-02-02 12:26:00 UTC  

Exactly

2020-02-02 12:26:03 UTC  

and they act totally normal afterwards

2020-02-02 12:26:05 UTC  

Mr robot is another example

2020-02-02 12:26:21 UTC  

There were already signs of the lead having gone through trauma

2020-02-02 12:26:27 UTC  

And everything is implicit

2020-02-02 12:26:35 UTC  

But they talk about it when it is needed

2020-02-02 12:26:43 UTC  

End of the fucking world

2020-02-02 12:26:46 UTC  

And not explicitly talk about the traumatic events

2020-02-02 12:26:49 UTC  

That too

2020-02-02 12:26:52 UTC  

yes i was actually pleasantly surprised by that

2020-02-02 12:27:10 UTC  

a lot of netflix shows have that kind of grotesque romanticization