yea, eliminating something before it becomes a threat

if someone has expressed clear intent to seriously harm you and you’ve got proof they’re willing to do so, go ahead.

extinguishing the fire before it becomes a wildfire

so you wait until it affects you

How would you proof such a thing? That's not clear cut

do you remember that quote in history class? about the nazis?

it’s not clear cut with government, either.

"First they came for X, and I didnt say anything because im not X"

What about people running around shooting people under the guise of self defence?

"Then they came for Y, and I didnt say anything because im not Y"

That's not an argument tard, answer my question

"Then they came for me, and there was no one left to defend me"

that’s where society and such are responsible

Using violence so they don't be "Coming for X" is a defense.

“First they came for X” is the exact moment you’re allowed to shoot em’

Can you speak coherrently instead of some mumbo-jumbo?

Can 3 of you not ask questions at the same time?

But they are related

yes

they still don’t have the same answer

r8ed

Kazimir remember, this is serious only

Ye gotcha

Then write three answers, gosh, is it really that hard for you?

water, you do realize the purpose of the state is to protect the people right?

Anyway, I don't like the Christian Vikerness definition of "self-defense", and believe self-defense actually needs to be direct.

and they use violence to do so

which should be perfectly acceptable in your view

i can specifically address your individual points, but making 6 points while i’m in the middle of an answer doesn’t help.

i’m okay with private cops, which have already proven themselves cheaper and more effective.

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but the only authority they have is to act in the defense of others.

youre starting to sound like someone who just wants to smoke weed

i want all drugs to be legalized.

Whats the problem with the state protecting people

from themselves?

If the government knows best, why don’t they control every aspect of your life?

@Water well good luck defending against an outside nation when your populace is degenerated because of all of these legal things

The slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy exactly because you don't need to go down the slope.

@PunishedMuskovy v ie t nam

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