where the person views every authority as a totalitarian dystopia

POST HOC ERGO PROCTOR HOC get it right

so if i push someone

that is as bad as killing them

because all violence leads to death...?

what if pushing them doesn’t get them to stop?

I don't know your fancy latin, but thinking using force to help someone is bad and will lead to *death* is, quite frankly, silly.

what if they keep trying to stop you from destroying their possessions?

Killing them is obviously not my goal

@Water Harm them

not kill

but harm

and keep reassuring

And if that doesn’t stop them?

"This is for your own good"

Sedation works as well.

Assistance.

Taking them to a hospital in the most critical states.

@Water Listen

oh of course, just knock em’ out and steal whatever you want. sounds perfect.

Id rather be dead than be a degenerate

Not "beating them with a crowbar".

punished wants to beat them with a crowbar apparently.

wew

>steal
You do realize you are putting property above human being here, right?

yea

not at all, i’m saying that you don’t have the right to steal something from another person.

says who

says government in our current case.

tell me

what is the state

the state is a group of individuals with the perceived right to initiate force over a certain geographical area.

how does that differ from a family

who owns property

you don’t shoot your kids when they disobey.

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I said family for a fucking reason

But if the father would ground his kids you would barge into their room screaming "What do you want to do, kill them?!"

is it ok for father joe to spank his kids

because spanking is violence

generally kids are under custody of parents until a certain age, and don’t exhibit the same protections grown adults do.