his alcoholism will surely lead to his demise

because alcohol man’s life isn’t imminently threatened.

temporarily destroying his alcohol won’t solve his problem

yet you seem to agree with getting rid of things before they become threats

not really, no.

you shouldn’t do something unless it’s imminent.

so you wait before they start affecting you

or someone else, yes.

the alcoholism is affecting him

hence defense of myself and **others**

the suicide will affect him

if it isn’t going to kill him, there are ways to go about it that don’t involve violence.

if it kills him tomorrow, you could argue that it’s justified.

so you wait until the alcoholism starts becoming serious...?

wait until it’s an immediate threat to his life.

thats retarded

if it’s *going* to kill him, you can intervene with force.

And I know you will start saying "but its your son you have custody"

And for how long will you intervene?

but if my son starts smoking weed, I will do everything I can to stop it

that’s up to punished

Intervene until he is in no immediate threat or until he is completely out of alcohol's grasp?

im not going to sit there and wait till his lungs resemble coal

you have a responsibility to protect your children from harm, you are not obligated to do so with your friends.

Weed doesn't work like that.

tobacco does, though.

Tobacco does, yes.

then Tobacco

libtards wanna kill guns when tobacco kills waaay more 😤

The only reason tobacco is legal is because of Big Tobaccy. I'd ban it before weed.

but according to water, if we remove the parental responsibilty, he will view me tyring to stop my son as

bad

id ban all drugs

if it doesn’t directly threaten him, it’s not your job to intervene with violence.

banning things creates a market for them.

wew

Making things legal makes a market for them as well.

A larger one.

Because it's legal.

in some cases, yes.

but the illegal trade of things like drugs and alcohol has proven vastly more harmful than the legal trade.