fun fact about Bethesda engine: its actually older than Morrowind even

1997 gamebyro

first version of gamebryo came out in like 1997

yeah

Made for MW

Like I know that's the reason why bioware went down the tubes with it's own ip

After battlespire

No, it was originally for some random shitty game

Oh yeah

but Bethesda bought it or licensed it or something I think

I thought you meant when it was acquired by Beth

Which is after BS flopped

they just keep bolting new parts onto it every few years without fixing some of the major issues
its why Bethesda games feel, look, act as if it was still 2006-2008

God I wish we could get another dragon age top down strategic rpg

pathfinder kingmaker

pillars of eternity 2

Is it just the case that as developers become more beholden overtime to a parent company, quality decreases? Certainly seems like the case with bioware, rare ware, 343, obsidian, etc. But then what makes rockstar and cd projekt red so different

it depends on parent company

although in Bethesda's case their parent company is basically mostly just a shell company to hold stock and assets, with BGS having more or less complete control

their quality is decreasing because Todd

gog is legit and rockstar is a trendsetter itself so shareholders aren't pushing it any direction it wasnt already heading

both are very traditional developers, both overwork their development teams with some pretty inhumane practices

They become corporatized

So when they get a large publisher added on, or open to shareholders, it becomes less about consistent profits and more about upwards growth.

They want 20-30% growth per quarter/year for years at a time.

Eventually it bleeds not the company but, the industry dry.

We've seen the same effect in oil, steel, and textiles along with other industries and they have a bust after a long boom.

i revoke your permission to use business jargon

This is just happening to video games as since the post 80s crash, it's been nothing but, growth.

It's a newer industry, ala wild west for finance.

None of that is jargon.

growth is the opposite of what we are seeing in the game industry, what's "ruining" it

Yes and no.

You're looking at this year alone, the start of the decline.

If you view say, EA's stock since 2014 to now.

It has jumped from 14 at opening to 87 at peak. This is due to shareholders pushing for growth every year.

And now has crashed to 50ish

growth would be focusing on interesting new ip's, development of interesting new concepts, risk taking behavior

No, you're thinking company growth. You're focusing on this at a company level, not an Econ level.

I am discussing stock growth/industry growth. Video games aren't a special industry. It's the latest one they're going to push for constant *financial* growth in, until they kill the golden goose that lays the eggs.

You are thinking IP, Product development, and franchising.