Message from @fuguer

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2020-02-26 16:40:06 UTC  

👌

2020-02-26 16:40:29 UTC  

But it’s super hard to value stocks lots of uncertainty

2020-02-26 16:40:43 UTC  

However, i would love to Play Outlast 2 in VR, only pro of Technology

2020-02-26 16:42:06 UTC  

Is vr any good

2020-02-26 16:42:11 UTC  

It doesn’t have much appeal to me

2020-02-26 16:42:21 UTC  

I am fine with my big monitor

2020-02-26 16:42:42 UTC  

Eh, maybe not vr but an augmented, enhanced version of it

2020-02-26 16:43:18 UTC  

Stock based pay is meh

2020-02-26 16:43:21 UTC  

I do think those games coild@be fun but we’re not quite there yet

2020-02-26 16:43:33 UTC  

Good for the company, usually average for the employee

2020-02-26 16:43:40 UTC  

Wel you can sell the stocks immediately once they vest

2020-02-26 16:44:12 UTC  

So it’s almost as good as cash except for the vesting part

2020-02-26 16:44:38 UTC  

Some companies make your 401k match vest. That’s super cheap

2020-02-26 16:44:56 UTC  

Yeah the return after the vest is usually market tier
But the company writes it off as a capital loss
So tax deduction for them

2020-02-26 16:45:27 UTC  

Well if they can give employees more value and pay less taxes that’s a win for both

2020-02-26 16:45:33 UTC  

Nationalism over Globalism.

2020-02-26 16:46:16 UTC  

And then the employees only pay a gains tax
So it's literally a loss of like 70% tax revenue

2020-02-26 16:46:26 UTC  

Lol, taxes.

2020-02-26 16:46:29 UTC  

Lol wages.

2020-02-26 16:47:03 UTC  

No you have to pay taxes on the value of the stocks when you get them

2020-02-26 16:47:17 UTC  

I lose like 1/3 my stocks to withholding

2020-02-26 16:47:32 UTC  

They get sold immediately and given to the government

2020-02-26 16:48:20 UTC  

You pay tax on dilution?

2020-02-26 16:48:23 UTC  

Weird

2020-02-26 16:48:25 UTC  

Wait till something replaces these systems.

2020-02-26 16:48:31 UTC  

What then?

2020-02-26 16:48:38 UTC  

There’s two kinds of stocks companies give. Stock options where employee can buy it cheap and stock grant where the company just pays you free stocks

2020-02-26 16:48:54 UTC  

Oh okay
I'm thinking of the latter

2020-02-26 16:48:58 UTC  

If your company literally gives you stocks that’s income you need to pay taxes in

2020-02-26 16:49:19 UTC  

This makes more sense now

2020-02-26 16:49:23 UTC  

It goes right on your w-2

2020-02-26 16:49:57 UTC  

What’s dilution

2020-02-26 16:50:28 UTC  

If they give you more stock, the rest of your equity goes down in value

2020-02-26 16:50:38 UTC  

Same market cap but more shares

2020-02-26 16:51:19 UTC  

For a small company yeah maybe

2020-02-26 16:51:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/682268506154467409/image0.jpg

2020-02-26 16:51:30 UTC  

If it’s publicly traded the shares you get are a drop in the bucket

2020-02-26 16:51:31 UTC  

dentist office be like

2020-02-26 16:51:44 UTC  

Cute

2020-02-26 16:51:50 UTC  

So even though in the aggregate you have more wealth on paper you just made a loss on every share

2020-02-26 16:52:10 UTC  

I mean that’s not true if your company’s stock price is going up