Message from @HonorSword

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2020-02-26 17:43:53 UTC  

But then again, if you go back far enough in history, every human has a grudge against each other.

2020-02-26 17:43:55 UTC  

for some reason

2020-02-26 17:44:07 UTC  

that's what i'm saying

2020-02-26 17:44:08 UTC  

So should we all kill each other over historical grievances?

2020-02-26 17:44:19 UTC  

take a completely different example to understand this

2020-02-26 17:44:28 UTC  

No, I understand this philosophy.

2020-02-26 17:44:29 UTC  

south korea has a "grudge" against japan for treatment in ww2

2020-02-26 17:44:34 UTC  

I understand.

2020-02-26 17:44:49 UTC  

they will keep using that "grudge" as long as they think it will get them something

2020-02-26 17:44:53 UTC  

no matter what japan does

2020-02-26 17:45:00 UTC  

Any human can do this at any time.

2020-02-26 17:45:05 UTC  

There is nothing special about this.

2020-02-26 17:45:15 UTC  

Your children will do this to you.

2020-02-26 17:45:26 UTC  

yup

2020-02-26 17:46:06 UTC  

but people take this moral rhetoric really seriously

2020-02-26 17:46:23 UTC  

I think altruism is a higher state of being.

2020-02-26 17:46:30 UTC  

However I will admit it is fragile.

2020-02-26 17:46:32 UTC  

altruism is fake

2020-02-26 17:46:35 UTC  

No.

2020-02-26 17:46:39 UTC  

It is fragile.

2020-02-26 17:46:44 UTC  

Like a flower.

2020-02-26 17:46:45 UTC  

think of it from an evolutionary perspective

2020-02-26 17:47:08 UTC  

an organism will only evolve to help others to the extent that it causes their own genes to be duplicated

2020-02-26 17:47:22 UTC  

yes, but we have something called a brain.

2020-02-26 17:47:36 UTC  

so?

2020-02-26 17:47:49 UTC  

we have feelings

2020-02-26 17:47:55 UTC  

and we feel altruism

2020-02-26 17:47:57 UTC  

You can use your mind to act in different ways even in ways that have fragility.

2020-02-26 17:48:07 UTC  

I know altruism is fragile.

2020-02-26 17:48:15 UTC  

So I need to use it tactically.

2020-02-26 17:48:32 UTC  

What don't people get about this?

2020-02-26 17:48:36 UTC  

define altruism

2020-02-26 17:48:50 UTC  

A state of being peaceful.

2020-02-26 17:49:08 UTC  

i don't think that's the definition of altruism

2020-02-26 17:49:14 UTC  

It is to me.

2020-02-26 17:49:21 UTC  

It's the only practical form I can find.

2020-02-26 17:49:24 UTC  

In reality.

2020-02-26 17:49:29 UTC  

Have you ever tested things?

2020-02-26 17:49:48 UTC  

that's a vague question

2020-02-26 17:49:53 UTC  

well.

2020-02-26 17:49:54 UTC  

Okay.