Message from @Tony_Swann
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distinct and differenv from Sapience
once again, the all or nothing with you.. 🤣
A Child is Sapient, do you think they have the same level of reasoning as an Adult?
This is a tangent, and has nothing to do with the topic, it only does because you think this is a universal and absolute property of people's behaviors
It's not all or nothing, it's a big factor that influences behavior...
I gave an option that included any choice you could make, what ever you would like to define it as I would accept that you believed it was the definition, if you couldn't define it than it would stand to reason that you didn't really believe it was something real enough to define
It doesn't make sense to go, "Well some people have drastically changed their minds and their behaviors therefore this kind of predisposition towards opinions and behaviors isn't real"
Someone overcoming something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
If someone is a drug addict and they reform it doesn't mean they don't have a propensity for addiction
I never said it wasn't real, I said it wasn't biological
And you're wrong
even more wrong since you start talking about the environmental changes over geological time scales 🤣
For example, my cousins Romanian. But he's never been to Romania knows nothing of the culture and doesn't fit any of the stereotypes for how they act
NAXALT
onced again, you think about this as a binary
nobody who thinks there's a level of biological determinism in behavior thinks culture is 100% biologically determined
but you're a fool if you think it has nothing to do with biology
This is at best a red herring
at worst a straw man
well, I guess at worst you it is you don't even really understand what you're talking about
I accept that biology can determine you proclivity towards certain ways of thinking. I do not accept that it has to do with race. Race is too broad a brush
TIL Biology doesn't affect white people
Why do blacks have Lower IQ Universally?
Historically poorer education
Black Jews in Israel commit more crime
You think you can educate someone and raise their IQ?
That's not how IQ works
There's a thing called a "Bio Manifold" a population that is defined by genetic distinctiveness creates a social environment and the norms associated with it. Previously blacks had to conform to a white created social environment, but now that is no longer the case and surprise surprise they create a black bio manifold that looks identical to any primitive african society.
Why do American Blacks have higher IQs than Afrcian Blacks?
Then why does IQ differ so drastically when people are tested as children and then as adults?
I can tell you why, but you're going to say it's education I'm sure
I dunno what data you're looking at, after early adolescence IQ doesn't change that much
>so drastically
dunno what you've read or what you're citing
Is a 14 year old more fully developed into their potential adult state than a 3 year old?
Yes?
@randomNPCno3 Race isn't "painting with a broad brush" AT ALL. populations cluster along traditional definitions of races no mater where you draw the lines genetically. This is a fact.
That doesn't make IQ not real?
If a 3 year old can't dead lift 400 pounds but both their parents are olympic athletes does that mean they won't have any predisposition towards athleticism?
@randomNPCno3 because yunger people develop at differnt rates and their brains are more plastic than as adults. They still have an "IQ ceiling" that is genetically determined.