Message from @Tony_Swann

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2020-02-28 02:02:00 UTC  

distinct and differenv from Sapience

2020-02-28 02:02:14 UTC  

once again, the all or nothing with you.. 🤣

2020-02-28 02:02:54 UTC  

A Child is Sapient, do you think they have the same level of reasoning as an Adult?

2020-02-28 02:03:28 UTC  

This is a tangent, and has nothing to do with the topic, it only does because you think this is a universal and absolute property of people's behaviors

2020-02-28 02:04:12 UTC  

It's not all or nothing, it's a big factor that influences behavior...

2020-02-28 02:04:27 UTC  

I gave an option that included any choice you could make, what ever you would like to define it as I would accept that you believed it was the definition, if you couldn't define it than it would stand to reason that you didn't really believe it was something real enough to define

2020-02-28 02:04:47 UTC  

It doesn't make sense to go, "Well some people have drastically changed their minds and their behaviors therefore this kind of predisposition towards opinions and behaviors isn't real"

2020-02-28 02:04:59 UTC  

Someone overcoming something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

2020-02-28 02:05:14 UTC  

If someone is a drug addict and they reform it doesn't mean they don't have a propensity for addiction

2020-02-28 02:05:20 UTC  

I never said it wasn't real, I said it wasn't biological

2020-02-28 02:05:28 UTC  

And you're wrong

2020-02-28 02:05:44 UTC  

even more wrong since you start talking about the environmental changes over geological time scales 🤣

2020-02-28 02:06:14 UTC  

For example, my cousins Romanian. But he's never been to Romania knows nothing of the culture and doesn't fit any of the stereotypes for how they act

2020-02-28 02:06:34 UTC  

NAXALT

2020-02-28 02:06:45 UTC  

onced again, you think about this as a binary

2020-02-28 02:07:09 UTC  

nobody who thinks there's a level of biological determinism in behavior thinks culture is 100% biologically determined

2020-02-28 02:07:16 UTC  

but you're a fool if you think it has nothing to do with biology

2020-02-28 02:07:23 UTC  

This is at best a red herring

2020-02-28 02:07:29 UTC  

at worst a straw man

2020-02-28 02:07:45 UTC  

well, I guess at worst you it is you don't even really understand what you're talking about

2020-02-28 02:09:05 UTC  

Romanians are white though.

2020-02-28 02:09:31 UTC  

I accept that biology can determine you proclivity towards certain ways of thinking. I do not accept that it has to do with race. Race is too broad a brush

2020-02-28 02:09:37 UTC  

TIL Biology doesn't affect white people

2020-02-28 02:09:59 UTC  

Why do blacks have Lower IQ Universally?

2020-02-28 02:10:16 UTC  

Historically poorer education

2020-02-28 02:10:17 UTC  

Black Jews in Israel commit more crime

2020-02-28 02:10:33 UTC  

You think you can educate someone and raise their IQ?

2020-02-28 02:10:44 UTC  

That's not how IQ works

2020-02-28 02:11:19 UTC  

There's a thing called a "Bio Manifold" a population that is defined by genetic distinctiveness creates a social environment and the norms associated with it. Previously blacks had to conform to a white created social environment, but now that is no longer the case and surprise surprise they create a black bio manifold that looks identical to any primitive african society.

2020-02-28 02:11:25 UTC  

Why do American Blacks have higher IQs than Afrcian Blacks?

2020-02-28 02:11:54 UTC  

Then why does IQ differ so drastically when people are tested as children and then as adults?

2020-02-28 02:11:56 UTC  

I can tell you why, but you're going to say it's education I'm sure

2020-02-28 02:12:20 UTC  

I dunno what data you're looking at, after early adolescence IQ doesn't change that much

2020-02-28 02:12:28 UTC  

>so drastically

2020-02-28 02:12:36 UTC  

dunno what you've read or what you're citing

2020-02-28 02:12:53 UTC  

Is a 14 year old more fully developed into their potential adult state than a 3 year old?

2020-02-28 02:12:55 UTC  

Yes?

2020-02-28 02:12:56 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 Race isn't "painting with a broad brush" AT ALL. populations cluster along traditional definitions of races no mater where you draw the lines genetically. This is a fact.

2020-02-28 02:13:03 UTC  

That doesn't make IQ not real?

2020-02-28 02:13:45 UTC  

If a 3 year old can't dead lift 400 pounds but both their parents are olympic athletes does that mean they won't have any predisposition towards athleticism?

2020-02-28 02:13:52 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 because yunger people develop at differnt rates and their brains are more plastic than as adults. They still have an "IQ ceiling" that is genetically determined.