But corruption denotes something secretive

It's a badly kept secret

At least everyone know who pays who for what

No it’s not

It’s very public

I reckon it as corruption, as in it corrupts the minds of whoever is making these bloody laws.

or whatever

But if that’s how you define corruption then sure we should remove lobbying

Umm

That’s not really how it works

Yeah, I define lobbying as part of a corrupt government.

But there is a bill rn that restricts former congressmen from lobbying

So there is progress

Shouldn't we switch to <#594595578709803028> ?

Not enough. Big companies can still fuck a country up if the Lobbying democratic type is allowed.

No this is welcoming

@applejuice

lol

@Daenc no dude when people are covertly paid for things they’re always found out

Y'all'r not welcoming you are talking about politics

Like a councilman in my town just got locked up for corruption

@applejuice we are a very welcoming group my dude

thats cool but there needs to be more of that

Big companies needs to not be able to lobby

@Daenc because it was clandestine and illegal

And in lobbying there is equal pull from all sides

I bet my ass on that if I had enough money I could lobby the fuck out of shit to put in a law that says no shitting after hours

Congressmen are lobbied for and against guns, war in Syria, healthcare, etc

So they kinda choose what lobbyists they want

@Daenc I like that law

lol

No shitting between the hours of 12:00 am and 12:00 pm

But I prefer a democracy where speech is the true victor - not money

But it is

We vote

Votes on a regular citizen level doesn't matter

And lobbyists generally have interests that align with some part of the population

All I’m saying is that there are bigger problems rn to solve

Like why tf nothing is ever done in Washington

Some of those problems cannot be solved with lobbyists around

Like what tf do they even do