then why do you care about the knife to the liver in preference to the sandwich?

You're gonna die anyway?

It doesn't matter in the end?

Like when the sun blows up? Ok maybe, but everything mattered right up until that point

Do it.

@DeezNutzYourChin well that's a positive way to think about it but the chances are most of your actions don't

See what I mean about dead end philosophy?

why should i?

no you are just strawmanning

nothing matters in the end so I don't have to strife to either kill myself or not to

you don't even get what the idea of that philosphy is

Sure they do.. that night my great great grandpa decided to go out and find a woman to fuck instead of staying home and jerking off to anime didn’t seem like it mattered at the time but it matters to me

You are thinking about this wrong.

@DeezNutzYourChin and after your entire line dies after going MGTOW it still ends up not matter in a few hundred years, that's the idea

By nature, nihilism nothing matters.

oh yeah its because others get the "philosphy wrong'no you

Once you start making things matter again, you're likely crossing into existentialism.

The idea of nihilism is that nothing matters in the end

not "nothing matters"

if you skip the in the end part the entire philosphy makes no sense

What?

My life still matters, the stuff I do will have an effect and has had an effect. Some good some bad some to be determined.

Sup Goyim

@DeezNutzYourChin yes your life matters to you right now , but in a few hundred years it won't, that's the idea of nihilism

But, according to Victor, in the end, nothing matters, so it's okay if you get a stick of semtex crammed up your ass and detonated but it's also okay if you have a nice day on the beach instead.

whats the debate?

Or you could take the judgement out of the consequences and just call them effects. Same diff

Because nihilism.

it will cause you immediate pain

it doesn't matter in 500 years

but it matters now

like I said

you keep cutting the idea in half

then strawman it

But your philosophy literally rests on the it doesn't matter part.

"it doesn't matter in the end", that's what nihilism is

And when you start assigning value and preference, you are no longer nihilist.

I don't know why you have to say "my philosphy"

but the length you go through to ignore the "in the end" part is hilarious

Small things that people did 2000 years ago still matter so that’s just silly thinking nothing matters once the space rock takes out all life or whatever “the end” is

Also, stop trying to redefine nihilism. It has a definition:
the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.
synonyms: negativity, cynicism, pessimism; More
rejection, repudiation, renunciation, denial, abnegation;
disbelief, nonbelief, unbelief, scepticism, lack of conviction, absence of moral values, agnosticism, atheism, nontheism
"he could not accept Bacon's nihilism, his insistence that man is a futile being"
Philosophy
extreme skepticism maintaining that nothing in the world has a real existence.
historical
the doctrine of an extreme Russian revolutionary party c. 1900 which found nothing to approve of in the established social order.