I think we should let go of women and only use them if we want to reproduce. We can live a full life without women at all in this day and age. The only use would be reproduction.

I just point how counterproductive is to reestablish a super hard patriarchy

no amount of pimp hand will prevernt secret affairs

Exactly

Patriarchy will come back by neccesity but it isnt the solution

The winning move is not to play anymore. We've learnt

I agree.

there's a reason why the milkman is also the "milk" man

We still need children.

I think the game is just broken from the start.

and the plumbers cleans all kiinds of pipes

@HonorSword Why would we need children?

We die off without them.

@HonorSword There are enough other people who will make children.

Artificial womb can help @HonorSword

@HonorSword What Roko is getting at is...who cares if we die off?

Besides that, they want us to make children to support an aging population due to the decline

Hmm

I would LOVE to have some philosophical framework that is taught in the whole of society that acts as cold shower

Our ancestors would be honored by us continuing our tribe and traditions.

It still doesn't make much sense to participate in the old system for any man though.

Even if we did need children.

New systems must be made.

discouraging people from becomeing hollowed out sex fiends

We do need systems that help keep the family together.

That's what i'm saying.

that I agree

@HonorSword Our ancestors fucked us by allowing women to get out of control in the first place. Why should be honor them when they created this mess?

Women need risk/reward concept re-introduced back in various forms.

We have to fight the oppression of this natural course.

Whatevr those forms are, I dunno.

Life is unnatural without risk/reward

some level of shaming and punishments should be dished out when somoene acts out in dysfuntional instincts

@LOGICWINS It's a war just like any other, we have to fight this.

I agree that we should fight....but we should fight for OUR sake. Not for our ancestors.

@HonorSword we can not do the same thing over and over again waiting for a different result

I am still curious to see what lies ahead in the next decades

@OutS1D3R I'm not suggesting that we get rek'd.

We need to fix this.

@Z-Man (soon to be Y A) The world will become considerably more conservative/right leaning. Brazil voted a right despite being a mostly non-white nation

Just a pointer, regardless of fixing or not. As a man if you can make it to 30+ and live right. You still got a lot of upside.