they are actively avoiding women

@Deadly Shells I don't know dude

i mean if thats not MGTOW then idk what is

It seems, but i'm not sure

Incels avoiding women?

if theyre avoiding women + not seeking cohabitation or marriage then theyre mgtow

Nope, they're killing them

Mgtow doesnt not Only mean about Avoiding Women

jesus im not saying you have to be celibate to be a mgtow!!

Because they can't get what they want

Chill there

Like i said before celibacy is a form of MGTOW

its a feature

not a form technically

too many dudes are avoiding women, waiting for the "right" one aka any women who will suck their peen and then theyre off

those arnt mgtow

Yup

i agree @Whats gay anymore

You shouldnt just say celibacy is directly mgtow

but if youre celibate for life and its voluntary then you are technically a MGTOW

@MoonCore i didn't

That is true

yeah i guess

i really think it depends why youre celibate for life but its a hard thing to prove

If your celibacy is voluntary then you're MGTOW.

but i know a lot volcels who hate mgtow label

If you want to get the best of yourself you're MGTOW.

only the person would know

Mgtow is also about having a Good Finacial Status and Capable of Living by yourself

its really not

those come with it

That's just called independency, lol.

Mhmm

a mgtow man will find those things but its not a requirement

Mgtow = Men's Indepence

Yed

Look, a MGTOW is a cowboy doing his own thing

Anyone willing to stay a Bachelor is a Mgtow

An old western cowboy

Muslims on the other hand are required to follow mohammed EXACTLY how he lived and he married multiple women and Muslim societies are hypergamus heaven for women

this is why a muslim cant go mgtow