The way nature works seems far to perfect to just snuff out the idea of god though. Look at an atom for example, it's literally just empty space. We should fall through an atom by that logic. But the electrons spin so fast that it acts as a solid. On top of that, the atom also holds charge and properties of reaction unseen anywhere else in nature. That to me seems far to grand of a creation to explain as a mere "happy accident" @Deadly Shells

But the only definition you have of works is the subjugation of cunts.

The Human Condition of Cosmic Abandonment. Just like blacks in America who have no culture, humanity doesn't know its true origins.

it restricts womens rights, that's great. But it has a whole lot of negatives as well

@Head Scribe Drayanor The thing you missed is that, while there is not a physical particle occupying the space of the atom, there are significant energy fields that interact with others in such a way that their space is largely inviolate.

We as humans created discord, computers, flying machines, and now AI. Who's to say that the world couldn't be a product of ingenious and unparalled blueprinting from a higher knowledge.

Islam doesnt even guarantees restriction of women's rights, along with a lot of negatives, so fuck that

Men reaching tipping point.

See that? That's "put your solution on the table so I can pick it apart"

i don't agree your convert to islam is a solution

i think youll be executed

I don't agree that islam is winning.

I agree

And I don't agree that red pilling men on women is impossible.

i think men will come to in the face of collapse

we've reached a line

others will

Converting to islam is exactly what mgtow argues against though. Why cave into society just because it's the new fad? Do what you will and don't look back on your actions. If going muslim is truly what you want then so be it, but if you do it because others do it then you challenge the idea of going your own way.

Muslim is not winning it is just agressive in a room full of pussies so it seems dominant given enough power it will destroy itself

see how well they play at extremism

this religion executes simps, simps convert to islam

what went wrong

But that's exactly what I said. If we assume there are mgtows amongst white british men we should tell them to stand their ground or die trying. Caving into the whims of society is, at its core, what mgtow argues against.

Islam is winning for the same reason that black people were never genocided. Just nobody bothered with it, lol

im saying their problem is simps

you cant just convert simps to islam and expect good results

red pill them and skip the whole islam step

Then they'll be Islamic simps

islamic simp = dead man

they dont need to go mgtow they just need to be red pill

If they're blue pilled then sure, go muslim. Those men are out of our jurisdiction or consideration for that matter. But for mgtow men like you and I we shouldn't cave.

But as I said, if going muslim is truly what you want then I won't argue against it either.

From a mgtow lens, that is.

When faced with a collapse these men would rather convert and role dice instead of fix the problem themselves?

if theyre going to pull the trigger on conversion they can take some rights away

by nature of converting to islam their pimp hand will be strong

It's just adding a completely unnecessary step to the whole process.

exactly

It would be like if you wanted to bake a cake, but step 2 was pray to allah

Like why

The alternative to hope is despair.