by that I mean isolated man and woman and their kids

the functining monogamic famili was the clan

a familiy composed of several related nuclear families toghther

it is the most common result of the k strategy n human reproduction and tends to produce people who provide teh most stable and productive environment for the growth of civilization z-man....

it is actually a modern outgrowth of the clan strategy

yes

but in the clan society from medievals times and such there werea lways always other people outside the married couple who are still part of the fmaily stabilizing things

m not defending it btw... it is likely a cancerous outgrowth...😉

u asked for a 'reason

But I often see it, that the nuclear families I see rarely work, and the ones that did were meh

igave u one

like i said... prolly a cancerous outgrowth....

if my parents were asked they would say they their parents and grandparents, all "modern" nuclear families squabbled

a lot

i said modern... not new... the modern 'age' has been around a good long tiem now....

even my parents evntually divorced, it was more or less amicable

divorce has always been around... its not the issue... stability is

family storY 3 generations back shitty marraiges, 2 and 1 generations back divorces

the currtent youngest generation got the message

stability comes from the way the culture handles it... not the individuals.....

me and my brothers dont mind pairbonding and having kidsbut show no interest in marraige

thats cuz it has no stability n this culture

culture or economic reality?

not because individuals have changed

both.... can't seperate them really

what kept toghther nuclear families toghther single couple families that is is male provision, and even if woman dont make as much, they can do without a man

people r instinctual and biologically driven... culture n economy r not

so its not the people changing

but we also have higher reasoning

is my higher reasoning that tells me "i'm not getting married,m i will find another way to have kids"

instinctively that only matters to males

womens' hypergamy is instinctive like breathing.... they r angling for the best deal instinctively and can't hold their breath

men can hold their breath indefinatley cuz they r built for it to accomplish their instinctive need

so you imply that women are unthinking animals?

basically an algorithm?

@SFM_2046 yeah look at Japan!

a man must instinctively provide and protect which mean using higher brain functions than is required to recieve at no cost

women r not animals.... they simply can't process the way men do... just as they can't love the way men do

and womean olf old had to process what was provided by the man

but now all is already done

so women remain children because they dont have to grow up not because they cant