Yeah makes no sense to me. But it's the government.. ANd they say in the military everything is done for a reason and nothing without.

that's a lie, the military does all sorts of shit with no reason

Yeah that's what i thought but that's what was drilled into our heads by our drill sergeants.

No we never used those in the navy, we tucked our pants into our boots

well Drill instructors also told me that the red stripe on the side of the NCO's and officers pants in dress blues was to represent the loss of officers and NCO's at the battle of Chipolitpec (not sure if I'm spelling that right) when the history books actually say it's because in the 1800's the marine corps was low on money so they bought a bunch of used Army field artillery pants that had a red stripe up the side and I guess they decide they liked them

interesting, I would have expected the navy to follow similar uniform habits to the marines especially after they decided to copy our 8 point covers.

Alright, well i think i'm going to try to get some sleep. It's almost 4am here.

good plan, goodnight brother

Good night

When did...oh

The new navy working uniforms

Eveyone hated them

ya that stupid blue cammo uniform

I got out before switching to those

I don't get why they didn't go with a solid blue uniform like the coast guard wears if they wanted a blue uniform, though I've heard the blue ones are seldom worn anymore, instead most guys wear the guacamole green ones now

I have no idea, I've been out for a long time now

did you wear BDU's on ship then?

Coveralls, dungarees and the old working uniforms plus our crackerjacks

I was never issued BDUs

oh, gotcha. interesting I'm guessing that's where all the old navy blue coveralls our motor pools used when working on vehicles came from then

I'd always kinda wondered where those came from since the Marine corps had a hard on for Marpat, everything was always Marpat

Probably, coveralls were ideal for ship work, we didnt need the new uniforms. Rumormill says some old master chief retired and started working for the government as a DOD civilian, pushed through the idea that the navy needed these new uniforms and pulled string for the navy to waste money on shit it didnt need or want

It's probably true to some extent

I'd believe it, atleast it's not as bad as the retarded camo the Army adopted, Issued in massive numbers then realized that it didn't work anywhere so started looking for a replacement

there are still units that wear that garbage universal cammo crap

Yeah, I think what happens is some desk jockey gets an idea and decides to force the military to adopt some new piece of gear without properly testing it, then the military finds out the hard way its useless

actually I did some research way back about the Army's trash cammo and found out that they actually held a huge experiment back in the early 2000's to try to develop a future cammo where they had a number of different manufacturers develop patterns and submit them for testing. after the tests were complete the army found two cammos that worked the best but decided the manufacturer that developed them was asking for too much money so they just took the Marine corps Marpat (which is already just a slightly pallet swaped version of Canadian Cadpat) and did a pallet swap to a grey, green, tan color pallet

Paid for by the lowest bidder, sounds about right.

absolutely, it's like they never learn. They did the same thing when they developed the M-14 rifle which is arguably a great rifle in specific roles but a garbage rifle for mass issue.

I loved the M-14

Its better for designated marksman than typical grunts in the squads

M-14's are awesome in specific roles but they should never be issued to every guy, it's labor intensive to maintain and heavy. don't get me wrong they make an awesome DMR but most guys don't need to nor are capable of a 1000 yard shot

I qualified as a marksman because of that weapon. Its weight is what gave it the stability it enjoyed, but I'm a better shot now and I like the 5.56. However the 7.62 holds a special place in my heart

you should try out 6.5 Grendel, I just built one and it's a pretty sweet round if a bit pricy

How much on average?

lets just say you either have to be rich or a reloader to shoot it on a regular basis. that said I have a an AR-15 with a Dolos quick detach barrel system that I built so I also have a 5.56 barrel for it

around $15 to $20 for a box of 20 match grade rounds

there's pretty much no mid tier ammo for it but wolf make some shitty steel cased ammo for it though I would never consider feeding that into my precision grade barrel

I wouldnt either

One thing I've found since going MTGOW though is I have stupid quantities of disposable income so I can afford to splurge on shit like that

Nice isnt it? I'm so used to spending money on other people I forgot what it was like to spend money on myself