It feels like, I dont want to start a war with my male family members spouses but it seems uinevitable due to their need for control over my male family members

inevitable*

if they argue with emotion, all you can do at that point is throw it back

I get that, it is very similar to religious fervor, none of us are particularly religious, Im starting to think gynocentrism is their religion :S

that is possible

currently we got a mob functioning off of social justice

They are very emotional, it does end in alot of shouting 😦

That's big fax about blue-pulled dudes. Currently trying to get my friend to come over to the red side but he's not really getting it

Aw it is specifically the family angle tho

bruh they got to show interest somewhere

then you poke

and seep the truth in slowly

I can care less about other guys in society, my immediate family less so

Tru

I guess I'll just stop trying. Not my responsibility

it is kind of like mother/male need, I need my male family memebers to think and see how I do, but they wont

I have been wrestling with this for about 3 or so years now, its not getting any easier to go forward, I may need to go back. To a time when I was on my own. Such a lonely place tho

Yeah he thinks I'm mostly just hating on woman. Trying to explain to him about the self validation part but he's a soft guy tbh

He needs that female affection

you really want them to learn?

Yeah exactly it's not

set them up to be burned

Hahaha

Truuu

Yea that is true, I dont have alot of local friends that are wise to MGTOW rhetoric

and you keep doing it until they start asking why

Yeah very hard to find mgtow guys here

It is a lonely existence, but better than theirs in my honest opinion

Yep. Just like guys are horny cuz of simple biology

Yup I'd def be happy with myself than seeking it from others

I mean Im currently 17 and I've never had a relationship

One of the biggest reasons y I went mgtow really

Ive been dropping subtle red pill hints for about 3 years now, I get alot of resistance, dogma and assumption in reply, like most un-red-pilled guys

Yup its a very frustrating situation

I mean I'm honestly just looking for smashes and dashes unless I find a unicorn or something idk

Yea, that is the wonderland they hang on to

you either love them or you understand them

Yeah I feel like it would totally change the love dynamic

It is like a drug, they cant let go even with their best efforts

And kind of gay you hit it on the nail

I thank whichever Gods you all worship that I had a couple of bad relationships in the past and it clued me up to how women are.