You can hire an international surrogate if you want your own children.

@empiru i hear ya there mate. You might be able to adopt.

They don't adopt kids to single men, though.

Price out what you want and build a plan.

@batshadow It's funny because I am only 23 but I've been a bit of a father figure to a 18-19yr dude at work who is interning. I started working out with him since he asked and we have been talking about life.

cool

Bros can be almost as good as dads.

Yeah, I've heard that as well. But I've also heard news about controversies over single men adopting. They have the kids, take family photos with them and haters claim it as child pornography.

@Xychotic Yeah, the real issue of being a single father is the constant shame/distrust by all of society. Like I am some pedo because I am a single father, while single mothers are lauded.

every dude here is a bro

so long as they aren't a fucking tard

@empiru I have not noticed that for my father.

I must disappoint you then

@GingerSnaps Yeah, that is why I am holding off on it for a while.

@hel You do. Constantly. Everyday with you is like a punch in the nads.

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@Xychotic Have you asked him "Dad, throughout all my life of you being my single father; have you ever gotten dirty looks or complaints or people thinking I am not your kid?"

@Xychotic Also do you live in the USA?

@empiru You're still quite young. I've heard it's best to wait until late 30's early 40's to have kids since you'll have more patience for them. In 20 years there likely will be the artificial womb..

Glad to know someone is happy that I'm here

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@GingerSnaps Yes, it won't happen until I hit "fuck you" money.

lmao

I do. I look a lot like him so it's never been in question. We got the most distilled hate from within the family.

If I have a kid/kids I want to actually mentor them and parent them.

@empiru that's likely best.

@Xychotic That is good! I'm sorry your family hates it. Fuck them.

@hel i'm happy you're here, i learn alot from you

I agree. I celebrated the death of my mom's mom.

That... warms my heart. @Cordy The Robot

To this day, I do not call her grandmother. Nor do I call my mother's sister my aunt.

OoF

@Xychotic Why were they so angry?

Dunno. I think they viewed my mom as the unwanted child from the starter husband.

And that resentment carried on to me, my brother, and my father and his whole side of the family.

It only settled down to our faces when my brother and I were grown adults. But neither of us forgot. Neither of us will forgive. If they were on fire and we had water, we would drink the water.

waters health anyway

Exactly!

Are you anonymous? @Xychotic

No, but I like their motto enough.

In one part it sounded just like the motto