Message from @averagecarl

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2018-09-19 21:41:12 UTC  

we should

2018-09-19 21:41:44 UTC  

But if we have the ability to plan ahead and foresee consequences why shouldn’t we use it

2018-09-19 21:42:07 UTC  

No we won’t die

2018-09-19 21:42:26 UTC  

Well have ruined everything that was built for us, and be forced out of what was rightfully ours

2018-09-19 21:42:35 UTC  

because it is better to be a good dead man than an evil living one

2018-09-19 21:42:55 UTC  

If nothing else that explains why most people are evil

2018-09-19 21:43:02 UTC  

yeah

2018-09-19 21:43:11 UTC  

Being good to the point of death just gives evil people more room to grow

2018-09-19 21:43:17 UTC  

Which is itself morally wrong

2018-09-19 21:43:20 UTC  

no

2018-09-19 21:43:34 UTC  

So letting evil flourish isn’t wrong?

2018-09-19 21:43:44 UTC  

morality has nothing to do with the state of the world

2018-09-19 21:43:51 UTC  

it is purely internal and personal

2018-09-19 21:44:02 UTC  

thats why he asked you

2018-09-19 21:44:03 UTC  

lmao

2018-09-19 21:44:24 UTC  

being immoral because you've lied to yourself that 'it might be good somehow down the road somewhere' is morally wrong.

2018-09-19 21:44:38 UTC  

I’m not saying it will be good somewhere

2018-09-19 21:44:42 UTC  

2018-09-19 21:44:47 UTC  

there is no greater good

2018-09-19 21:44:54 UTC  

I’m saying it will assuredly be evil

2018-09-19 21:45:43 UTC  

If good people are ok with dying, and evil people aren’t, logic dictates that evil people will grow in number while good people decrease

2018-09-19 21:45:50 UTC  

Eventually leading to a world where everyone is evil

2018-09-19 21:46:01 UTC  

so?

2018-09-19 21:46:04 UTC  

Being content to let that happen doesn’t seem to be morally good

2018-09-19 21:46:07 UTC  

who cares how evil the world is

2018-09-19 21:46:10 UTC  

care how evil you are

2018-09-19 21:46:14 UTC  

tbf, there cant be a world where everyone is evil

2018-09-19 21:46:17 UTC  

e

2018-09-19 21:46:18 UTC  

the world doesn't matter

2018-09-19 21:46:19 UTC  

you do

2018-09-19 21:46:23 UTC  

Because the evil of others affects innocents

2018-09-19 21:46:37 UTC  

By enabling evil you permit suffering implicitly

2018-09-19 21:46:42 UTC  

so what

2018-09-19 21:46:48 UTC  

suffering doesn't matter

2018-09-19 21:46:50 UTC  

That is not good

2018-09-19 21:46:50 UTC  

your morality does

2018-09-19 21:47:02 UTC  

You can't control the evil of others, but you can control the evil of yourself.

2018-09-19 21:47:07 UTC  

The people who died were not morally good in the end

2018-09-19 21:47:08 UTC  

everything outside your body does not matter

2018-09-19 21:47:19 UTC  

Everything outside my body affects my body

2018-09-19 21:47:22 UTC  

no