Message from @Eris

Discord ID: 492090513701339138


2018-09-19 21:49:50 UTC  

anything else is illogical

2018-09-19 21:49:52 UTC  

what you choose matters

2018-09-19 21:50:06 UTC  

But if it doesn’t concern others

2018-09-19 21:50:11 UTC  

I am the only one who matters

2018-09-19 21:50:19 UTC  

So I should value myself above all else

2018-09-19 21:50:24 UTC  

no

2018-09-19 21:50:27 UTC  

why

2018-09-19 21:50:35 UTC  

because that's not a moral choice

2018-09-19 21:50:38 UTC  

But you already said letting evil affect others is fine

2018-09-19 21:50:45 UTC  

how is it not moral

2018-09-19 21:50:50 UTC  

That implicitly says that other people don’t matter as much as you

2018-09-19 21:50:53 UTC  

you're stuck in this consequentialist viewpoint

2018-09-19 21:51:11 UTC  

choosing good over evil is what matters

2018-09-19 21:51:24 UTC  

Because the world is not an island chain of people. All things have consequences

2018-09-19 21:51:32 UTC  

so if im good and i choose myself over others, then how is that immoral

2018-09-19 21:51:34 UTC  

consequences don't matter

2018-09-19 21:51:40 UTC  

If good is derived from the self why can’t I choose my own good

2018-09-19 21:51:50 UTC  

How do I know what good or evil is

2018-09-19 21:51:51 UTC  

there is only one good

2018-09-19 21:51:58 UTC  

what is that

2018-09-19 21:52:01 UTC  

good

2018-09-19 21:52:04 UTC  

Is that good found out in the world?

2018-09-19 21:52:07 UTC  

no

2018-09-19 21:52:09 UTC  

define it

2018-09-19 21:52:11 UTC  

Where is it

2018-09-19 21:52:17 UTC  

Inside?

2018-09-19 21:52:23 UTC  

define this good

2018-09-19 21:52:27 UTC  

Because if it is, my inside says to live

2018-09-19 21:52:29 UTC  

it's ineffable

2018-09-19 21:52:38 UTC  

you know what it is

2018-09-19 21:52:53 UTC  

pretending you don't is lying

2018-09-19 21:53:04 UTC  

yes, and thats why what youre saying doesnt make sense

2018-09-19 21:53:06 UTC  

pretending it's something other than it is is lying

2018-09-19 21:53:11 UTC  

it doesn't have to make sense

2018-09-19 21:53:18 UTC  

then you have no point

2018-09-19 21:53:21 UTC  

lol

2018-09-19 21:53:41 UTC  

"YOU MUST ARGUE WITHIN MY CONSEQUENTIALIST LOGICAL FRAMEWORK OR YOU CANT ARGUE"

2018-09-19 21:53:42 UTC  

no

2018-09-19 21:53:45 UTC  

So, looking within myself

2018-09-19 21:53:49 UTC  

I found a will to live

2018-09-19 21:53:50 UTC  

if im good, and i choose myself, how is that immoral