Message from @dave

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2018-09-21 17:58:53 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-21 17:59:07 UTC  

that's a surprising amount of initiative

2018-09-21 17:59:11 UTC  

Why wouldn’t I do them

2018-09-21 17:59:16 UTC  

No it isn’t

2018-09-21 17:59:22 UTC  

because you need people to hold your hand

2018-09-21 17:59:35 UTC  

That’s a basic level of responsibility

2018-09-21 17:59:45 UTC  

so is working

2018-09-21 17:59:52 UTC  

or living

2018-09-21 18:00:17 UTC  

Yea, hence why I’m ok with doing work and living

2018-09-21 18:00:23 UTC  

But I don’t do work and live only for myself

2018-09-21 18:00:49 UTC  

brb

2018-09-21 18:01:38 UTC  

the Sirens are going off

2018-09-21 18:02:04 UTC  

ok they stopped maybe it was just a test

2018-09-21 18:02:29 UTC  

yeah work for society and also work for the betterment of society

2018-09-21 18:02:48 UTC  

That labor needs to be directed

2018-09-21 18:02:49 UTC  

I guess society is a broad term

2018-09-21 18:02:58 UTC  

I can’t build a skyscraper alone

2018-09-21 18:03:02 UTC  

by workers councils ;)

2018-09-21 18:03:15 UTC  

How are they any different from bosses

2018-09-21 18:03:18 UTC  

not by bosses who steal ur shit

2018-09-21 18:04:04 UTC  

coming together as workers and coming to decisions isn't similar to a boss

2018-09-21 18:04:20 UTC  

How is it different

2018-09-21 18:04:29 UTC  

self management

2018-09-21 18:04:39 UTC  

not hierarchical

2018-09-21 18:04:50 UTC  

non exploitive

2018-09-21 18:04:53 UTC  

Do they have the vision and ambition that a powerful man has

2018-09-21 18:05:00 UTC  

And that an ordinary person doesnt

2018-09-21 18:05:22 UTC  

maybe if people weren't working jobs they fucking hated

2018-09-21 18:05:54 UTC  

If they do

2018-09-21 18:06:01 UTC  

It’s the same as having a boss

2018-09-21 18:06:12 UTC  

And I’m fine with having a workers council

2018-09-21 18:06:20 UTC  

Because it’s a natural hierarchy again

2018-09-21 18:06:57 UTC  

how would that be hierarchical

2018-09-21 18:07:27 UTC  

some people making decisions on their own? sounds like a state to me :/

2018-09-21 18:07:28 UTC  

Because the strong willed and best able direct the work of the weak

2018-09-21 18:07:38 UTC  

And build society

2018-09-21 18:07:53 UTC  

Because it is

2018-09-21 18:08:42 UTC  

ok well im going to eat soon because I need to eat and not debate

2018-09-21 18:08:42 UTC  

The only difference is the people making the decisions

2018-09-21 18:08:51 UTC  

I am walking to eat as well

2018-09-21 18:09:01 UTC  

What are you having