Message from @chaika

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2019-04-19 04:07:16 UTC  

What conversation?

2019-04-19 04:07:25 UTC  

she isnt even wrong and the point about science is posturing

2019-04-19 04:07:31 UTC  

in shithole

2019-04-19 04:07:45 UTC  

Oh that one

2019-04-19 04:09:11 UTC  

this method of therapy is similar to what eris was trying to explain

2019-04-19 04:11:26 UTC  

she was trying to point out the issue w the pathology while u guys were too focused on the problems that were presented

2019-04-19 04:12:11 UTC  

however, the problem in itself can't be solved so you are really only looking for some sort of temporary gratification

2019-04-19 04:12:53 UTC  

🤔

2019-04-19 04:16:40 UTC  

the problem gets fixed by getting loaded on DMT

2019-04-19 04:16:42 UTC  

the only thing i disagree with is the stance of looking within for meaning, but that is really due to a larger conceptual framework that causes me to be skeptical

2019-04-19 04:17:25 UTC  

as above so below, as below so above. looking within is still looking outside

2019-04-19 04:17:40 UTC  

but consciousness others itself in order to be for itself

2019-04-19 04:19:05 UTC  

i also take a bit of influence from rene girard who claims that desire is mimetic

2019-04-19 04:19:34 UTC  

the desire to play video games only comes outside but is compounded into the individuals essence

2019-04-19 04:19:41 UTC  

humans are good conduits

2019-04-19 04:20:05 UTC  

but at the same time, this just means you should watch who's desires u want to imitate

2019-04-19 04:24:16 UTC  

i dont think it is as easy as just deciding to not care about other ppl... idk causality is really complicated

2019-04-19 04:25:25 UTC  

im too lazy to put the whole argument in my notes

2019-04-19 04:25:48 UTC  

damn i only joined to check up on something and i ended up writing an autism paragraph

2019-04-19 04:25:50 UTC  

o well

2019-04-19 04:27:13 UTC  

>idk causality is really complicated

2019-04-19 04:27:18 UTC  

causality does not effect human beings

2019-04-19 04:27:23 UTC  

we have free will

2019-04-19 04:27:40 UTC  

pls stay you're neato

2019-04-19 04:27:48 UTC  

ook

2019-04-19 04:28:11 UTC  

yeah but the thing thats fucked is that we are finite beings still

2019-04-19 04:28:39 UTC  

we dont know everything

2019-04-19 04:30:02 UTC  

it is sorta hard to do stuff if you are fumbling in a dark room and you are only vaguely sure of the objects in it

2019-04-19 04:30:30 UTC  

you might find the cup or you might not

2019-04-19 04:31:02 UTC  

from there you may choose to drink it

2019-04-19 04:31:24 UTC  

but even then what if there is poison in it?

2019-04-19 04:33:36 UTC  

that is what troubles me about the general problematic of consciousness

2019-04-19 04:34:15 UTC  

not everything coomes to your mind to examine at once so the best you can do is take things slowly

2019-04-19 04:42:41 UTC  

of course not

2019-04-19 04:42:45 UTC  

you're a consciousness in a world

2019-04-19 04:42:50 UTC  

but what you choose to do in that world is acausal

2019-04-19 04:43:12 UTC  

Your decisions are affected by outside factors, but you still have free will

2019-04-19 04:43:33 UTC  

Like sure I can drive to a restaurant and get a steak or I can heat leftovers but ones a lot easier than the other

2019-04-19 04:43:43 UTC  

My decision is influenced by outside factors

2019-04-19 04:46:00 UTC  

im not even talking about difficulty