Lol

i want determinists to shut the fuck up

how the fuck are we determinist

people literally go insane without human interaction

>applying science to human beings

>science applies except when I don't want it to

oh my fucking god

thats right

eris believes humans are above everything else except god

i forgot

Eris the point of science is so we can model our understanding of the universe in which we live

she hates it when people apply science to humans or to god

That includes ourselves

is that really what this is about

it does not include human beings

we are not deterministic

science applies only to the deterministic

And it's been discovered that a great need for humans isn't just the physical food and water but also psychological

why are humans not deterministic

we have free will and self control

The need for shelter, affection

"it's been discorvered"

lol

How is acknowledging the needs of humans deterministic?

eris we're going to lock you in a room with no human interaction for a couple years

also @Fluffles never tell me to shut up on my own server ever again

lets see if you come out sane or not okay

ok

i've done that

btw

6yrs

i sincerely doubt you had no human interaction at all

What is determinism and how is using science to understand humans that?

I don't understand what's going on

also you might not be entirely neurotypical so thats also something to consider

"neurotypical"

anything i can think, you can think

Eris you're dodging my question

theres no reason if the rest of the world is deterministic, humans arent

either everything is deterministic or nothing is

unless you can draw a clear line defining what makes humans separate