honestly if you strike the 'a' off of that 'agnostic' you'd be fine

When America was ~90% white and Christian. The government hardly had to do shit. Things ran well and we were prosperous.

I would like to believe in God, but I have doubts sometimes. Still something I'm trying to sort out.

What are those doubts?

Well, it's mostly the literal interpretation of the Bible that irks me. Doesn't make sense.

Is Christianity the only method of belief in God?

I don't know. I'm not religious scholar or a even a very religious person. I haven't given these sorts of topics much thought before.

@Sovereyn we gotta start with the libertarian part and then the Christianity

@terex.j why do you believe in liberty?

Why should men get to choose wrong

I mean because he's libertarian he probably already believes in some form of natural order

Hear me out

free markets are efficient, and by ancap/libertarian theory, society will self-regulate towards those markets

i.e. without manmade laws, only the law of the jungle, raw competitiveness

The only thing that's missing in his own beliefs is the necessity of the folk to come together

So you make a state run by Jews

well ideally you kill the jews

any economy works if purely white

That's along the lines of what I'm saying. I think we'd be more prosperous and happy if we were free, however freedom only works well in a homogeneous society.

See? he's not too bad

The lemming principle debunks freedom working

A path to societal decay

I mean he's a retard but at least he's not DA WORLDFOO OF TROOF @stein

I would honestly rather have this guy than your average "I read ST once" virgin

Da worldfoo of troof is better than libertarians

not at all

@stein Also agree with that a bit. Communist countries like Poland survived communism. There's no surviving mass replacement.

I would rather have a man who can fight and knows what he believes in, than a man that you would call a nazi and nothing else

@Sovereyn the most important thing is that they understand THE WORLDVIEW part

If he wants to learn about fascism I say he's got a better chance at understanding than a worldfoo of da troof

Not what comes before of after it

There are two sides to fascism: the material and immaterial

If we become complete idealists then we have no game plan

I realise entirely that no man will be able to dictate the future post-collapse, implement their ideal society

but at least with people who regard the material as something that, whilst illusory, definitely has impact on our souls, they might fight towards it with much more vigor

Yes but the balance must exist, if we become absolute pragmatists we lose the actual meaning to our struggle

“Muh strong state”

Therefore it is crucial to understand the basis of the worldview

I don't know, what will a troofer, who only knows fascism as "da troof", do for his people, as compared to a man who is similarly immersed in the material and yet knows that he must create a future for his people

It's philosophy vs. street smarts, essentially

And the age of philosopher kings is gone

Troofers are just retards who either lack the capacity to understand or haven’t gotten there yet, those capable of understanding the true message should be thought it