i mean you can choose to not believe the data

whatever

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this act really did a lot of the changing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

`a by-product of the civil rights movement and a jewel in the crown of President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs. The measure had not been intended to stimulate immigration from Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and elsewhere in the developing world.`

It is 'data' not culled from the census or ICE. If I source my 'data' from HuffPo should you believe it?

do you have any proof to show that the migration policy institute is as unreliable as the huffpo

otherwise that point is a non-sequitur

Well no I did not bother. Is it your habit to rely on YT videos when you lack the capacity to prove your own points in your own words?

To demand that *I* research your position for you because you are not competant to prove it yourself?

I have done the research, i even provided the act that changed the rules on immigration and caused the uptick in immigration from non-english speaking countries

soo....

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i linked the video because its visualizes it well, but i can find charts and graphs for you if youd like.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669683392857767956/674495439432581161/PH_2015-09-28_immigration-through-2065-04.png

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/09/28/modern-immigration-wave-brings-59-million-to-u-s-driving-population-growth-and-change-through-2065/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669683392857767956/674495534580367360/PH_2015-09-28_immigration-through-2065-03.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669683392857767956/674495595217551370/PH_2015-09-28_immigration-through-2065-01.png

https://archive.ph/TAYy5#selection-1283.0-1331.11

https://www.axios.com/when-american-minorities-become-the-majority-d8b3ee00-e4f3-4993-8481-93a290fdb057.html

Again. like your colleagues on the left, you are conflating legal and illegal migration here. The naturalization rate cannot support the millions you describe. Thus (because math) you are not referring to citizens.

this is all legal

thats how they have numbers

they cant count the illegal ones dude.

No you can count it. We do count it that's how we generate the illegal numbers.

the illegal numbers have wild margins of error

by millions

Apologizes for stumbling in, but what would that look like? How do you account/count for people who are not documented in anyway?

nor do they fill out census paperwork or stuff like that

i mean if they saw people coming to count them theyd prob disperse lol so thats hilarious that you think that TEB

the illegals are on TOP of these charts. on top of those who came legally.

now im not using this as a pretense to like... kick them all out or anything like that. but certainly as a pretense to stop the legal immigration for the time being until we integrate these people

From my view as a US citizen, my greatest frustration is the pick and choose of laws we are going to enforce. To over-look felonies and federal crimes puts me in a strange place when getting in trouble for petty misdemeanors.

For example when i get a ticket for expired tabs in front of a homeless camp of people shooting heroin here in Seattle

So if you are going to let illegal border crossers break that law, and not enforce it, what right does law enforcement have to apply any other basic law?

well and its not even just the illegals that are rapidly changing the texture or our society. our gov is letting in millions of non english speaking low skill workers every year lol. it was a lot worse before trump but even he is still talking about visa programs for indians and stuff.

and yea TBB thatd be discouraging

the whole getting a ticket thing

https://youtu.be/2zQrSNlLzQM

That feels like almost 2 conversations though. It can be a more gentile discussion when we start talking about the people we let in here with clear backgrounds that go through the process of obtaining citizenship. But still not saying it is not something that needs reform if we have standards that are too low.