how the fuck do you get to be against wind farms but for oil like what the fuck is going on with NPC TRUPM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_farm#Criticism

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those wind farms are not as "green" as you think they are.

I don't think i have ever seen one where at least one turbine isn't going at any given time, not to mention all the extra cable and resources they take to build.

if they weren't being built by government programs/incentive I wouldn't mind so much, but they ARE being built with that money and will likely never pay for themselfs in most of the places they are being put up.

at they do harm wildlife, more then the hydroelectric dams harm fish that's for sure.

funny enough, nuclear power is likely safer then any other source of power, and it's "waste" is very easy to contain.

You can even process and sell the waste

this is also true.

people for some reason think of nuclear waste as a grean glowing goop in old 55gal drums hucked into the ocean.

People also seem to think that the reactors are all as unstable as Chernobyl and we're all one sneeze away from disaster

I've heard people use the Fukishima disaster as a reason not to build reactors the the UK

you mean the one in japan that killed more people in the panic trying to get away form the thing then in the disaster itself?

that's about all i know of the fukishima disaster.

It was still a disaster and there were legitimate concerns over reactor breaches and stuff like that

A lot of radioactive water

But it was caused by a double team of a Tsunami and Earthquake

sure, but i'm sure it was still safer then liveing near most chemical plants, and those are all over the place.

The point is, the Fukishima disaster was not because the reactors were unstable or fragile, it's because they were hit by an earthquake and then a Tsunami

Nuclear power is a lot safer than it once was, and the two most famous disasters were both caused by outside forces, Chernobyl by a botched experiment and Fukishima by natural disaster

Wind and hydroelectric are the only net gain energy technologies.

well that depends on how large you claim the system is.
hydro sure that is a very good system, to bad the enviromentalists seem dead set on getting rid of them and replaceing them with solar or wind, nither of those options are stable enough for modern power needs.

unless you have your own solar or wind, then sure you can make that work fine, but the large scale needs of a city or factories can't deal with the instablity of solar or wind.

Mostly because of the limitations of existing storage technologies.

that seems like a rather important thing to deal with.

I think the US wind power generation is something like %3?

it's not alot

I don't really mind if someone desides to make a wind farm someplace, assumeing they are not getting incentives form the government to build said wind farm.

I don't think the turbines work well enough for that in most areas, if they did they wouldn't need the government incentives.

The arguments against wind are rather hilarious tbh. I personally think they are quite beautiful. Here they are always in motion and the payments to the land owners are a huge influx into the local economy. But I have heard of many cases where they are less than ideally located.

But hey we put reactors on fault lines so

they are not "always in motion" every time i see any windfarms there is always at least one that is not working.

As i said here they are working. Im sure they may not in other applications

like i said, I don't mind or care except I feel like the government is funding a industry that isn't able to support itself.

Thats like so many industries though

and those industries should also be left to die.

At least wind is fairly benign

sure, except people think that it's enough to displace gas or oil power.

as far is the wind power itself, yes it is fairly benign.

Tbh i think the best way to use wind is on small scale projects in high efficiency areas.

sure, i would be more then ok with that.
but the enviromentalists don't get to say it's free electricity, and they don't get to act like it doesn't harm wildlife, because it's not and it does.