Message from @Greasy
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Monogamy is a woman's game.
All this does is devalue woman's historical power over society.
Islam was right about women
Loved watching the left's heads explode w/that meme
Well I don't mind women giving up their own power over society.
I'm reading that utah state constitution criminalises polygamy, and that was a condition of statehood. If true, then what are they doing? trampling over the constitution?
Virtue signaling.
No thought was put into it.
Mitt Romney wants to fuck Elizabeth Warren but needs to marry her to do so.
I don't know.
Or maybe Romney's wife was going to divorce him but he stopped and said she could marry Jamal too.
> Decriminalize illegal crossings
Do you believe in racial equality? "Yes, of course." So then why do you give people of color a pass to break the law instead of treating them like equals? Or do you not believe they're human beings with moral agency and responsibility like the rest of us? "Muh colonialism." So did you or I personally do anything to these people? "No, but it's the systemic racism." Ok, so do you think that people should receive credit or blame for the actions of people who merely look like them? Cuz to me, that seems like the definition of racism and xenophobia, as you're not treating people like individuals. Like isn't that why you think cops are racist? Cuz they're judging people for the actions of people who look like them?
no, they think cops are racist because they're white.
and because they're in the "system"
"You're benefitting from the legacy of slavery." How exactly? "Capitalism, apple computers, etc." Ok, but the same people whose ancestors were slaves also have an increased standard of living as a result of those things, so they're also benefiting from the legacy of slavery, the same as you and me, right? Cuz neither of us owned slaves ourselves. "Muh ancestors." So you believe that people should receive credit or blame based on what their ancestors did? Like if you dad murdered someone, should *you* go to jail for that? How about me, wherein MY ancestors were abolitionists and suffragettes (true story, btw)? Should I be punished as well, when my ancestors did the right thing, cuz someone else's ancestors did the wrong thing?
See how ridiculous this gets when you personalize it?
the people you're trying to argue against in a logical fashion, they have been made too enraged to listen to reason - or they were too simple in the first place. you can try to increase someone's thirst for learning but it's difficult.
> "Cops are racist cuz they're white."
So you believe that it's ok to condemn people based on the color of their skin? "If they're white it is." You don't see that as being racist? "No, cuz power + prejudice." Ok, so what would you call simple bigotry and hatred of someone for the color of their skin regardless of how much power they hold? "No such thing" (cuz they're a Marxist) or "Punching up." Ok, so if I found someone more marginalized than you, they'd be justified in hating you for something you didn't do because you happen to look like someone else?
> Too enraged
The way to get past that is to take them seriously and make them feel like they matter. We know what happens to people who are cut off from the tribe, right? How that tends to radicalize them?
> Too simple
I mean, maybe, but note that I'm not giving them a lot of complex stats and theories, I'm just asking basic questions, reflecting their own alleged principles back at them.
technically people radicalise when they're deep within the tribe and deradicalise when they leave, but I understand what you mean.
"The child whom the village rejects will return and burn it down to feel its warmth."
> I found someone more marginalized than you
I've found that this is a statement some can't process
We know what happens to these people who get censored and cancelled, right? That's what the point of *Joker* was, yes? This whole business with incels and MRAs and Gropers? People acting defensive cuz they feel like they're constantly under attack and no one's listening to them or caring about them?
Ok, well, the same is true of the radical left - the feminists, trans activists, and BLM. They act the same way for mostly the same reason. Realizing that actually helps you understand them and you can learn how to deradicalize them.
a lesbian friend simply doesn't think such a thing as relative scales exists
> I've found that this is a statement some can't process
Here's a half-starved black orphan child with no legs and cerebral palsy in the middle of Africa. I'm going to use force to take half of what you have and give it to them because they need it more than you.
Now tell me how that statement makes you feel, cuz that's how you make ME feel when you say the shit you do.
Empathy
Do you mean what you say or not?
then they claim you're making yourself the victim. response?
"Never again." Ok, well the Chinese govt is rounding people up based on their ethnicity and putting them in camps, murdering them for their organs and gasing them. Care to comment on that?
Oh, I see, you only meant "never again" when it applies to Jews, not to ... ya know, human beings in general.
> then they claim you're making yourself the victim. response?
I'm not the victim here. I fully admit my privilege compared to the half-starved black orphan disabled child.
then they say you should admit your privilege relative to the original topic group, and pay your reparations
>Be left
>Declare oneself antifa
>Bash anyone who thinks or speaks differently
>Support China that is literally making the Nazis look magnanimous in Xinjiang
>All in a day's work
> then they say you should admit your privilege relative to the original topic group, and pay your reparations
Those aren't *my* principles, they're *your* principles. I'm holding you to *your* own principles, or do your principles change based on the person you're talking to? Because mine don't. Mine are universally consistent and the same for everyone.
That is their principles. It changes based on the person lol
So under *my* principles, I don't have to pay you and you don't have to pay the disabled orphan. That only is necessary under *your* system.
> It changes
Ok, so you really *don't* believe that all people are created equal, then?
I don't think you understand the primary principle they're working on
It's w/e principle that is convenient in taking from others to give to them is the narrative they'll use