Message from @Sq crcl

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2020-02-25 09:20:35 UTC  

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More than a half of the world
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Conservative estimate still

2020-02-25 09:20:55 UTC  

Around 10%-20% got infected by the swine flu back in 2009-2010

2020-02-25 09:21:05 UTC  

Basically worse than that

2020-02-25 09:21:44 UTC  

Spanish flu infected around 25%

2020-02-25 09:21:49 UTC  

Yes, 2019-nCoV seemingly is at least 20x more infectious

2020-02-25 09:22:54 UTC  

My hope now is in 'racism'

2020-02-25 09:23:10 UTC  

Suddenly I wish that I was Indian

2020-02-25 09:24:47 UTC  

What's an accurate estimate

2020-02-25 09:24:53 UTC  

Mid range

2020-02-25 09:24:58 UTC  

And if you can

2020-02-25 09:25:06 UTC  

A high estimate

2020-02-25 09:27:03 UTC  

From my mind, the guesstimate from my armchair would be :

(not accurate)
Mid - 200 mill
Max - in two years ~2.5 billion

2020-02-25 09:27:54 UTC  

By then, we should have found something to reduce it drastically.
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Mostly affecting the boomer generation and twice of that is men

2020-02-25 09:29:26 UTC  

So max includes the fact we don't find a vaccine

2020-02-25 09:29:34 UTC  

Or the quarantine fails?

2020-02-25 09:31:39 UTC  

No, both in case they find something in two years. Quarantines don't seem to do much if you ask me. In some cases they even increase the density of virus concentration and making people sicker faster.

2020-02-25 09:33:03 UTC  

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That's why I think masks are useless, other than reducing a little bit how much one's exposed to the virus and if the person's wearing gloves too, in how much they spread the virus

2020-02-25 09:33:07 UTC  

I assume those numbers are deaths right?

2020-02-25 09:33:36 UTC  

And why is the mid lower than the conservative estimate of 700 million dead?

2020-02-25 09:33:49 UTC  

Yes, bc in a few months we'll have the whole globe covered

2020-02-25 09:34:59 UTC  

The 700 is a general estimate, which is based on outside of China figures as of current stats.

2020-02-25 09:36:07 UTC  

Also, why do we still have commercial flights and transportation still working?

2020-02-25 09:36:33 UTC  

Are we actively trying to spread the virus?

2020-02-25 09:37:57 UTC  

And the 200 million mid numbers are based on figures from outside as well?

2020-02-25 09:39:03 UTC  

And aren't conservative numbers low estimates

2020-02-25 09:46:23 UTC  

What's your point?

2020-02-25 09:47:04 UTC  

Mid should be 700 million

2020-02-25 09:47:16 UTC  

Conservative should be 200 million

2020-02-25 09:47:38 UTC  

Unless those figures are based on different data

2020-02-25 09:48:17 UTC  

Well, it's not linear bc when it affects a huge population all at once the death rate spikes unproportionately. Tends to.

2020-02-25 09:49:13 UTC  

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It will depend on the ability of the government (?) to separately heal people

2020-02-25 09:49:38 UTC  

So the 700 million number is based on figures outside China too

2020-02-25 09:50:03 UTC  

Just like the 2.5 billion and 200 million number

2020-02-25 09:50:22 UTC  

And I assume if the figures were based on Chinese numbers it will be higher

2020-02-25 09:51:18 UTC  

It's like a constant probability of exponential growth, kept in check by the happenstance of what population and in what proportion gets exposed to the virus.

2020-02-25 10:02:07 UTC  

Some interesting stuff is going down in Hungary at the moment, for starters the government recently changed the education curriculum to be more nationalistic, which is causing progressive teachers to protest and claim that they'll "sabotage" it.

More importantly, a few weeks back a judge ordered the state to give reparations to a group of Gypsies after they sued the state for allegedly segregating their children in school, this turned into a massive political thing and the Hungarian government has basically said they're going to have a public referendum on whether or not to pay the Gypsies. Over 2 thousand pro-gypsy protesters marched in Budapest while around 1-2 thousand anti-gypsy protesters marched about a week earlier

2020-02-25 10:03:07 UTC  

Form Italy: itโ€™s just the flu bro

2020-02-25 10:03:23 UTC  

What my cousin was told ๐Ÿ™‚

2020-02-25 10:03:31 UTC  

In Milano

2020-02-25 10:29:06 UTC  

Um..

2020-02-25 10:29:43 UTC  

That's fine bc nobody will believe that so it's not misleading just an obvious lie.