Message from @Lucienne d'Anwyl

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2020-02-29 04:06:07 UTC  

obv

2020-02-29 04:06:10 UTC  

Having companies that are state run in a country where you cant even own property

2020-02-29 04:06:15 UTC  

Isnt in any way capitalist

2020-02-29 04:06:26 UTC  

It's missing a fundamental tenet of capitalism

2020-02-29 04:06:40 UTC  

fascism isnt particularly pro capitalist either tho

2020-02-29 04:06:42 UTC  

It's like saying china is capitalist because they have money

2020-02-29 04:06:45 UTC  

Of course it isnt

2020-02-29 04:07:01 UTC  

i mean if you look at how nazi germany and italy were run it was mostly government focus on major corporations

2020-02-29 04:07:12 UTC  

central planning doesnt work

2020-02-29 04:07:14 UTC  

there were som minor ones but the focus was on the major ones and keeping them in business

2020-02-29 04:07:17 UTC  

so they use capitalism instead

2020-02-29 04:07:24 UTC  

which is similar to how china is operating rn

2020-02-29 04:07:30 UTC  

Easier to manage they did however give those corporations basically endless leeway to accomplish those goals

2020-02-29 04:07:31 UTC  

Fascism still respects the rights of CEOs and corporations to a degree

2020-02-29 04:07:37 UTC  

Communism doesnt tho

2020-02-29 04:07:46 UTC  

lmao what

2020-02-29 04:07:51 UTC  

both do

2020-02-29 04:08:03 UTC  

Again fundamental thing here

2020-02-29 04:08:04 UTC  

either way they both prefer corporations

2020-02-29 04:08:10 UTC  

The big difference is ownership of property

2020-02-29 04:08:10 UTC  

to a massive amount of smaller businesses

2020-02-29 04:08:21 UTC  

Nazi germany you could. You could own a plant or a farm etc

2020-02-29 04:08:25 UTC  

China you cant

2020-02-29 04:08:48 UTC  

You are mostly directly state run with minimal seperation and dont actually own anything

2020-02-29 04:08:56 UTC  

Certainly for the public

2020-02-29 04:09:34 UTC  

Again fascism is very left wing economically. It's not socialist

2020-02-29 04:10:11 UTC  

in fairness i think the left would be more pro small business than pro corporation

2020-02-29 04:10:37 UTC  

if you interpret right as being economic efficiency and left being personal freedoms at least

2020-02-29 04:11:51 UTC  

Of course it's not. The left is pro worker coops but consistently is against small business again because it's hard to control.


One of the reasons the left is also anti competitive .


As if they raise taxes to 50 percent for companies and regulate out ass. Walmart can afford lawyers and accountants to make it work and maybe even make more money from arrangement

2020-02-29 04:12:01 UTC  

But local grocer cant

2020-02-29 04:12:02 UTC  

Barriers to entry increase

2020-02-29 04:12:15 UTC  

the modern left

2020-02-29 04:12:19 UTC  

So the left ends up creating a spiders web of adjustments that ultimately crashes down

2020-02-29 04:12:23 UTC  

but if you just take the oncepts of rightest and leftist

2020-02-29 04:12:31 UTC  

leftist traditionally is more pro individual rights

2020-02-29 04:12:39 UTC  

It never has been ?

2020-02-29 04:12:42 UTC  

whereas rightest is more pro efficiency, things like aristocracy and monarchy

2020-02-29 04:12:48 UTC  

Unions from even the 1920s were in fact full of commies

2020-02-29 04:13:01 UTC  

unions from forever were full of commies

2020-02-29 04:13:10 UTC  

The left puts a mask on for individualism when convenient

2020-02-29 04:13:14 UTC  

It inherently is collectivist