Message from @ManAnimal

Discord ID: 683181365491138595


2020-02-29 05:16:36 UTC  

woah, stop confusing terminology

2020-02-29 05:16:46 UTC  

workers don't create money

2020-02-29 05:16:53 UTC  

that goes against capitalism

2020-02-29 05:16:56 UTC  

They create value

2020-02-29 05:17:00 UTC  

correct

2020-02-29 05:17:06 UTC  

money is a storage of value

2020-02-29 05:17:09 UTC  

would you say that getting to own that by virtue of having performed that service is a right

2020-02-29 05:17:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683181000159002629/e7f.png

2020-02-29 05:17:26 UTC  

IT's a mutual agreement, not a right.

2020-02-29 05:17:41 UTC  

IF you have the right to perform a service THEN you have a right to the output

2020-02-29 05:17:47 UTC  

can't have just one

2020-02-29 05:18:02 UTC  

they go together

2020-02-29 05:18:02 UTC  

but why do people exercise control over the things the agreement is made upon

2020-02-29 05:18:07 UTC  

else it's called 'slavery'

2020-02-29 05:18:12 UTC  

why can't i agree with someone to give them control over the hoover dam

2020-02-29 05:18:25 UTC  

you don't OWN hoover dam

2020-02-29 05:18:34 UTC  

why not

2020-02-29 05:18:37 UTC  

it's not yours to give

2020-02-29 05:18:40 UTC  

why

2020-02-29 05:18:48 UTC  

How old are you June??

2020-02-29 05:18:50 UTC  

because you didn't CREATE it

2020-02-29 05:19:00 UTC  

wait i don't care about you, i'm trying to dig in to his position

2020-02-29 05:19:01 UTC  

i'm 24

2020-02-29 05:19:18 UTC  

nor did you AGREE in the means of exchange in ACQUIRING it

2020-02-29 05:20:05 UTC  

someone created something of value

2020-02-29 05:20:21 UTC  

the initial creation dictated initial ownership

2020-02-29 05:20:24 UTC  

i would certainly think you don't consider all forms of property to be legitimate kizza

2020-02-29 05:20:39 UTC  

the real key to the point is 'possession'

2020-02-29 05:20:41 UTC  

there seems to be some standard by which you think it is

2020-02-29 05:21:04 UTC  

if the government decided to require everyone living in its territory to pay a 100% i don't think you would that's legitimate

2020-02-29 05:21:15 UTC  

Ruling members of the soviet union didn't 'own' anything.. but they CONTROLLED anything they wanted

2020-02-29 05:21:26 UTC  

so you think there are restrictions on what the government should do with its property

2020-02-29 05:21:35 UTC  

i would assume, at least

2020-02-29 05:21:37 UTC  

i could be wrong

2020-02-29 05:21:52 UTC  

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

2020-02-29 05:22:02 UTC  

how does that assertion come to be?

2020-02-29 05:22:14 UTC  

your logic is of a floating abstraction

2020-02-29 05:22:21 UTC  

how does what assertion come to be

2020-02-29 05:22:37 UTC  

creating this imaginary scenerio without examining how that scenerio would ever come into existance

2020-02-29 05:22:41 UTC  

i just think you do believe in some conception of property rights kizza

2020-02-29 05:22:43 UTC  

you can't get there from here