Message from @jesmaz

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2020-02-29 05:31:52 UTC  

every government owns territory

2020-02-29 05:32:00 UTC  

not OWNERSHIP

2020-02-29 05:32:04 UTC  

Actually no.

2020-02-29 05:32:15 UTC  

Why do you need a higher entity for ownership?

2020-02-29 05:32:30 UTC  

because the argument is about the role of property

2020-02-29 05:32:35 UTC  

the government has more of control over its territory than you do over your fucking house

2020-02-29 05:32:40 UTC  

In the UK, the Queen has more territory than the government does despite them running the country.

2020-02-29 05:32:48 UTC  

but property loses all meaning when it comes to government

2020-02-29 05:32:59 UTC  

i don't see why the government being an entity that defends its own property, and thus not being subject to a higher sovereign authority, renders that null

2020-02-29 05:33:22 UTC  

well for one, the queen is part of the government, and two, even if we delineated between them i don't think that's true

2020-02-29 05:33:23 UTC  

ownership cannot exist without a central authority that administers the titles

2020-02-29 05:33:24 UTC  

I don't think you understand the definition of sovereignty.

2020-02-29 05:33:36 UTC  

i.e. possession is 9/10ths of the law

2020-02-29 05:33:47 UTC  

of course it can, because an owner can defend their own claim

2020-02-29 05:33:50 UTC  

the gov OCCUPIES territory

2020-02-29 05:33:54 UTC  

it doesn't own it

2020-02-29 05:33:58 UTC  

it has possession of it

2020-02-29 05:34:09 UTC  

this is distinction without a difference

2020-02-29 05:34:20 UTC  

No.

2020-02-29 05:34:20 UTC  

It's bearly a distinction

2020-02-29 05:34:24 UTC  

it has custody of land until someone offers to buy that land within the country

2020-02-29 05:34:36 UTC  

it's an important distinction

2020-02-29 05:34:52 UTC  

because one sets the bounds which govern the nature of the exchange

2020-02-29 05:34:54 UTC  

Also the government has no money of it's own. This fact should be obvious to the public.

2020-02-29 05:34:58 UTC  

even when you buy land the government still owns the territory its on, you land that you "own" is subject to whatever rules the government, the owner of the territory, decides on

2020-02-29 05:35:02 UTC  

in the second example, this isn't possible

2020-02-29 05:35:14 UTC  

Oh for gods sake

2020-02-29 05:35:24 UTC  

Why do commies use same brain dead argumenta every time

2020-02-29 05:35:30 UTC  

ikr

2020-02-29 05:35:36 UTC  

Except if you own a patch of land you can legally speaking sue the government for trespassing on it.

2020-02-29 05:35:41 UTC  

Guys everything is ultimately communism so stop resisting communism

2020-02-29 05:35:48 UTC  

because they've decided on that rule

2020-02-29 05:35:48 UTC  

This is literally what they think

2020-02-29 05:35:52 UTC  

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2020-02-29 05:36:01 UTC  

well i'm not a communist and i'm not saying everything is communism so

2020-02-29 05:36:04 UTC  

again, as i explained before with the old Soviet party, the gov owned nothing. BUT they CONTROLLED everything

2020-02-29 05:36:12 UTC  

It's exactly what you are saying

2020-02-29 05:36:17 UTC  

the government did not own nothing

2020-02-29 05:36:25 UTC  

i'm just saying that governments own territory

2020-02-29 05:36:35 UTC  

control/custody/possession is NOT ownership