Message from @ManAnimal

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2020-03-01 04:27:17 UTC  

by legal requirement

2020-03-01 04:27:18 UTC  

the public option still gets free money

2020-03-01 04:27:20 UTC  

just stolen elsewhere

2020-03-01 04:27:28 UTC  

so you only lose half of the anticompetitive advantage

2020-03-01 04:27:30 UTC  

public option for what?

2020-03-01 04:27:34 UTC  

charity

2020-03-01 04:27:36 UTC  

welfare

2020-03-01 04:27:46 UTC  

seperate concepts

2020-03-01 04:27:51 UTC  

identical

2020-03-01 04:27:52 UTC  

almost

2020-03-01 04:27:57 UTC  

welfare is just forced charity

2020-03-01 04:28:00 UTC  

Many charities are guilty of not actually doing what they claim.

2020-03-01 04:28:02 UTC  

to an autist

2020-03-01 04:28:05 UTC  

identical

2020-03-01 04:28:10 UTC  

welfare is literally forced charity

2020-03-01 04:28:12 UTC  

very different in reality

2020-03-01 04:28:28 UTC  

welfare is a forced donation

2020-03-01 04:28:33 UTC  

but not charity

2020-03-01 04:28:40 UTC  

you of ALL people should know the difference

2020-03-01 04:28:40 UTC  

that depends on your definition of charity

2020-03-01 04:28:44 UTC  

given your faith

2020-03-01 04:28:47 UTC  

I to this day disagree that welfare is public charity, I do not think the philosophical ideas line up with that conception even if it addresses the same problem

2020-03-01 04:28:59 UTC  

Autism I know

2020-03-01 04:29:06 UTC  

obviously, in the moral sense, "forced charity" is an oxymoron

2020-03-01 04:29:10 UTC  

it's a type of 'tax'

2020-03-01 04:29:23 UTC  

but, practically speaking, welfare is forced charity

2020-03-01 04:29:31 UTC  

charity by definition is voluntary and done for DIFFERENT reason

2020-03-01 04:29:49 UTC  

the different reasons is far more central to the definition

2020-03-01 04:29:51 UTC  

it tries to do what charity tries to do, but with force

2020-03-01 04:30:01 UTC  

and is obv less effective as a result

2020-03-01 04:30:11 UTC  

that's not what welfare tries to do at all

2020-03-01 04:30:11 UTC  

it also kills the charitable nature of the populace

2020-03-01 04:30:38 UTC  

you are looking at it PURELY from the perspective of the person paying the bill

2020-03-01 04:30:39 UTC  

because "oh dont worry, I'm sure the govt will take care of it, it's not my problem"

2020-03-01 04:30:41 UTC  

but what if charity was not kill

2020-03-01 04:30:47 UTC  

hence why I said "practically"

2020-03-01 04:30:54 UTC  

but charity doesn't expect a return on investment

2020-03-01 04:30:55 UTC  

Its a sweeping government solution to say X, y and or Zthey want to give things to people who don't just need it, like nobody gives charity to people who aren't needing charity yet **universal** healthcare and similar are for **ALL**

2020-03-01 04:31:03 UTC  

doesn't expect the situation to improve at all

2020-03-01 04:31:07 UTC  

welfare doesn't necessarily either

2020-03-01 04:31:12 UTC  

welfare isn't intended to be permanent