Message from @ManAnimal

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2020-03-01 04:31:56 UTC  

Yes, but really no

2020-03-01 04:31:58 UTC  

you keep switching

2020-03-01 04:32:08 UTC  

a 'charity' is NOT 'charity'

2020-03-01 04:32:12 UTC  

I meant

2020-03-01 04:32:13 UTC  

charity

2020-03-01 04:32:14 UTC  

the noun

2020-03-01 04:32:16 UTC  

not the verb

2020-03-01 04:32:16 UTC  

seperate concepts

2020-03-01 04:32:21 UTC  

this entire time

2020-03-01 04:32:25 UTC  

cause the noun is a legal entity

2020-03-01 04:32:35 UTC  

subject to all the typical corruptions

2020-03-01 04:32:50 UTC  

but 'charity' is typically about the reasoning for giving

2020-03-01 04:32:54 UTC  

definitionally ma is correct

2020-03-01 04:32:58 UTC  

and you don't expect to receive anything back

2020-03-01 04:33:05 UTC  

having reasons by definition means it is not unconditional

2020-03-01 04:33:10 UTC  

and you HOPE it will make the situation better

2020-03-01 04:33:16 UTC  

it is simply not on the condition of expecting something in return directly

2020-03-01 04:33:18 UTC  

but you don't place conditions on that charity

2020-03-01 04:33:27 UTC  

but, for example

2020-03-01 04:33:31 UTC  

welfare has entry and exit criteria

2020-03-01 04:33:51 UTC  

you are either elligble or not

2020-03-01 04:34:24 UTC  

you may choose not to prioritize those who are not reliable or are dangerous

2020-03-01 04:34:40 UTC  

that is describing the noun again

2020-03-01 04:34:42 UTC  

not the act

2020-03-01 04:34:55 UTC  

there is the noun, the act, and the quality of people

2020-03-01 04:35:19 UTC  

but the quality of people isn't a factor in the act

2020-03-01 04:35:31 UTC  

Do charity organisations actually do what they should be doing?

2020-03-01 04:35:32 UTC  

only the noun

2020-03-01 04:35:47 UTC  

Not usually

2020-03-01 04:35:49 UTC  

because it's on an INDIVIDUAL basis

2020-03-01 04:35:56 UTC  

and that's the point of my arguement

2020-03-01 04:36:14 UTC  

the organization deals with groups of people

2020-03-01 04:36:16 UTC  

you can collectively do charity and it isn't necessarily worse off because of it

2020-03-01 04:36:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683533082015432711/ER986pyXUAAAHax.jpg

2020-03-01 04:36:32 UTC  

and so does welfare; but the individual is charitable

2020-03-01 04:36:47 UTC  

you are purposing that the individual replace the organization

2020-03-01 04:36:53 UTC  

but that can't work

2020-03-01 04:37:06 UTC  

because it changes the dynamic

2020-03-01 04:37:38 UTC  

Welfare is abjection of responsibility

2020-03-01 04:37:52 UTC  

Should be at a community level

2020-03-01 04:37:55 UTC  

it's also abject to individual circumstance