I mean take any car with that tho.

the thing is, a lot of the modern performance cars are going to be less comfortable than tuned cars

because supercars make compromises as well

Try preserving the responsiveness, comfort, etc, while also subtracting 3 secinds from the 0 to 60 time

Like even if you compromise some, which factory sports cars do, it just aint happening

my ludicrously wealthy friend has a huracan, it's a great car to look at but the driving position is not perfect, the seats imo are uncomfortable and the interior feels cheap - not because it is but because it's been made for lightness

it's impossible for the majority of people to tell the difference between plastic made to be cheap and plastic made to be light

because they feel nearly identical when you knock them

there are almost no cars out there that make no compromises at all

the chiron and veyron are obviously in that category, I'd argue that most of the luxury sedans are also there if you discount weight as being a compromise

funnily enough, I think some of the most exciting cars being made today are American cars

they're powerful, well priced, comfortable but not too bogged down with technology

and they come with glorious slower manuals

the expensive powerful cars still with manual options from Europe are limited to what, the jag ftype and porsche? I think even aston have pulled their manual options but I could be wrong

Japan don't seem to have anything manual either

all this talk of cars reminded me

I need to check a wheel bearing brb

I think i lost my original point in there somewhere

Oh well

The automotive industry will go where it goes

I'll just sit here trying to figure out why my car decided to cut boost

could there be a leak?

also the automotive industry is kinda fucked in the long run; the rise of electric and driverless cars is gonna render a lot of existing selling points redundant

driverless cars will make performance irrelevant, electric cars will mean once a vehicle has a range of probably 1000 miles and a sufficiently rapid charging capacity, anything else is irrelevant so cars are gonna sell on comfort/ride and pretty much every manufacturer can match one another on that

also I have this horrible theory that the future will be the elimination of private vehicle ownership and basically everyone will just take ubers

I think series hybrids will be around for quite a while still, especially in commercial vehicles

probably, but it's developing rapidly

Eh

I'm hoping hydrogen wins out over battery storage

Evs are on life support

Fisker is dead basically. Tesla is losing $1.5 billion a year and rising

no dude, tesla is on life support, other companies are doing it a lot better

Sure, you might be able to make a Tesla go 1000 miles within the decade, but good luck getting a dump truck to go more than 50 miles on the same battery tech

look at jaguar and hyundai

And the established mfgs are making compliance cars

Tgey make them because the law requires it

volvo are totally withdrawing pure ICE cars and going hybrid/electric only

Like, here in my state you can only buy two EVs, Tesla and the mitsubishi shitbox one with the stupid name

toyota are pouring money into the mirai

Nissan Leaf

The rest are only offered where it is required