Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-07-10 19:52:39 UTC  

hence all the companies cheating them

2018-07-10 19:52:53 UTC  

They will eventually either back off or strangle their industries

2018-07-10 19:53:00 UTC  

no it's worse

2018-07-10 19:53:02 UTC  

The US already had that dilemma

2018-07-10 19:53:07 UTC  

what's happening is

2018-07-10 19:53:24 UTC  

they're forcing substandard products onto consumers which are overpriced

2018-07-10 19:53:29 UTC  

subsidizing it with tax

2018-07-10 19:53:41 UTC  

and selling it saying "you're helping the world and stopping people dying"

2018-07-10 19:53:51 UTC  

No amount of laws will make electrics popular or profitable

2018-07-10 19:54:05 UTC  

the whole EV and hybrid industry is an affront to capitalism, it's disgusting

2018-07-10 19:54:10 UTC  

It is

2018-07-10 19:54:36 UTC  

Which is why it will crash and probably take whole economies with it. Economics always wins, and it is a sore loser

2018-07-10 19:54:53 UTC  

Winner

2018-07-10 19:54:56 UTC  

Sore winner

2018-07-10 19:54:58 UTC  

Fuck

2018-07-10 19:55:04 UTC  

The supercar manufacturers are using hybrid tech pretty well

2018-07-10 19:55:18 UTC  

well, depends which one

2018-07-10 19:55:22 UTC  

the P1 was hysterical

2018-07-10 19:55:42 UTC  

they basically said it was a "hybrid" when really it was an electric motor to compensate for huge turbo lag

2018-07-10 19:55:52 UTC  

that is the best thing ever

2018-07-10 19:56:04 UTC  

Konneigseg and Ferrari are using the F1 hybrid stuff

2018-07-10 19:56:09 UTC  

Like i said, hybrids = the future

2018-07-10 19:56:21 UTC  

I don't think hybrids are the future

2018-07-10 19:56:32 UTC  

The economy thus far disagrees

2018-07-10 19:56:38 UTC  

assuming batteries can hold enough, ICE has no advantages

2018-07-10 19:56:49 UTC  

Why not? You know how peak efficiency in ICEs works?

2018-07-10 19:57:12 UTC  

Literally the most efficient systems we have are hybrids

2018-07-10 19:57:19 UTC  

Or rather diesel electric

2018-07-10 19:57:20 UTC  

Trains are hybrids

2018-07-10 19:57:35 UTC  

Why do you think all heavy duty equipment is hybrid?

2018-07-10 19:57:49 UTC  

Giant mining trucks are hybrids

2018-07-10 19:57:49 UTC  

It is the most efficient and long lived system

2018-07-10 19:57:52 UTC  

the limiting factors for EVs is literally batteries, that's all, electric motors are cheap and efficient, the problem is batteries are dirty and recharging is slow, plus capacity isn't there yet

2018-07-10 19:58:08 UTC  

the only reason hybrids exist is to compensate for failure in electricity delivery

2018-07-10 19:58:16 UTC  

So you have a small battery and use the engine as a generator

2018-07-10 19:58:17 UTC  

if you have perfect electricity delivery, you do not need ICE

2018-07-10 19:58:18 UTC  

ever

2018-07-10 19:58:20 UTC  

That's.... not true

2018-07-10 19:58:25 UTC  

Always operating at peak efficiency

2018-07-10 19:58:37 UTC  

Like, man, i dunno where you are even getting this

2018-07-10 19:59:07 UTC  

@LOGiK Do you know how generators work?