Message from @LordCaledus

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2018-07-13 18:57:58 UTC  

The only real issue with it is that it would hurt the difference in brands.

2018-07-13 18:58:17 UTC  

It would have to be quite a different car not to encroach, even if only a little, on Lexus' V8 sports cars

2018-07-13 19:00:29 UTC  

But tbh, Lexus is clearly moving away from N/A V8s, anyway.

2018-07-13 19:00:38 UTC  

Lexus/Toyota, I mean.

2018-07-13 19:01:26 UTC  

The LS doesn't have any V8s at all anymore. They're steadily removing the naturally aspirated engines from the other Lexus cars as well.

2018-07-13 19:02:18 UTC  

And cars like the Camry, by Toyota's own admission, only have a V6 option because it makes for a better halo version of it. Hardly anyone actually buys the top engine option on the Camry anyway, so they can afford to.

2018-07-13 19:02:36 UTC  

The moment that changes, they will likely nyx the V6 on that car too.

2018-07-13 19:06:08 UTC  

And the momentum for turbo engines, at least at the moment, seems to be shifting towards mid displacement, low boost, high compression motors, as seen with the new Tiguan, Silverado, CX-9, and others since they get better fuel economy and have better driving dynamics than small displacement, high boost, mid compression motors.

2018-07-13 19:06:31 UTC  

Given that, I could really see Toyota making a muscle car with a V6 turbo.

2018-07-13 19:10:34 UTC  

Gimme dat ol' 4.0 Lexus V8

2018-07-13 19:39:00 UTC  

That would be good too

2018-07-13 19:39:08 UTC  

V6 would have better torque tho...

2018-07-13 19:42:48 UTC  

Oh look

2018-07-13 19:42:58 UTC  

Another way to make houses more expensive with no feasible gains

2018-07-13 19:45:35 UTC  

That's like $50 in parts

2018-07-13 19:45:47 UTC  

i6 is smoother running than v engines as well and the reason inline engines carry weight is because traditionally those heavy inline engines were made of heavy materials, and handled a lot of boost as a result, not all good inline engines are heavy though; the s54 is pretty reasonable really

2018-07-13 19:46:24 UTC  

GM killed off the Atlas 4.2 too soon

2018-07-13 19:46:28 UTC  

also electric charge points cost very little really, especially when installed with a construction

2018-07-13 19:46:50 UTC  

Its just another breaker and an outlet

2018-07-13 19:47:11 UTC  

Depends on how they handle it.

2018-07-13 19:47:17 UTC  

I actually wish I'd had one fitted when they were doing a free scheme

2018-07-13 19:47:24 UTC  

If they have any extra requirements or certification...

2018-07-13 19:47:25 UTC  

just because why not

2018-07-13 19:47:47 UTC  

@LordCaledus It's no different than a freezer or washing machine

2018-07-13 19:47:49 UTC  

I mean, I'm all for _encouraging_ builders to build houses with these

2018-07-13 19:47:55 UTC  

Requiring it is stupid tho

2018-07-13 19:48:20 UTC  

Particularly given that it's part of the shoe-on-head level of stupid Road to Zero plan

2018-07-13 19:48:29 UTC  

the requirements for electrician work being signed off in the uk is extensive but any decent electrical worker will have someone to sign off on ev outlets

2018-07-13 19:49:02 UTC  

it's not a complicated installation, there are far more difficult things being stuffed into modern builds

2018-07-13 19:49:10 UTC  

The electrician who builds an EV station vs installs an outlet in your house is the same guy

2018-07-13 19:49:23 UTC  

Also, i6s are smoother running inherently, yes, but they were heavy not just because they were made of heavier materials.

2018-07-13 19:49:42 UTC  

If that was the case, Toyota's 3.0L iron block turbo wouldn't be the same weight as GM's iron block 5.3

2018-07-13 19:49:57 UTC  

They need to be made stiffer because they're so long

2018-07-13 19:50:08 UTC  

^

2018-07-13 19:50:14 UTC  

This does make them inherently good with handling boost

2018-07-13 19:50:31 UTC  

But here's the thing, you can make a heavy V6 that handles boost just as well and fits in a smaller space to boot

2018-07-13 19:50:42 UTC  

A v6 and a 3cyl have about the same amount of structural metal for the engine block

2018-07-13 19:50:55 UTC  

One just has more heads

2018-07-13 19:51:17 UTC  

Thus, i6s are really really good for applications where you don't care about weight all that much

2018-07-13 19:51:20 UTC  

Ie, truck engines