Prior to 2000, they could have salvaged it

Purge the minivans. No Aztek. Get rid of the stupid af rebadged chevies.

lol no

Start out with what Lincoln is doing now. Keep rebadged models, but have them be so different in nature that only a particularly savvy customer would realize what it shares its bones with.

Seriously, what led you to this logic? I feel like this is the same as GM execs had. I'm curious

Mainly, looking at Pontiacs as they "developed" after the 1970s, combined with looking at how their sales went

And looking at when GM was taken over by accountants

You're kind of right

Pontiac died in the 1980s

Because that was about when they became rebadged Chevies with literally no other worthwhile differences.

The logic being that they would make more money by rebadging Chevies and riding on Pontiac's reputation.

It worked...for a little while

And then it didn't.

This is partly with inside info. I have family that have been in the Big Three for a long time.

Rebadging vehicles is assuming your average customer is dumber than you think.

Depends on how you do it.

Sharing parts, to a degree, is smart.

You keep costs low that way

That's not rebadging

The Porsche Cayenne is a VW Toaureg.

You'd have a hard time telling as much from driving it.

Now you're being dis-ingenuous with the term 'rebadge'

I'm rambling

Lemme organize this

Okay

I say rebuilding would _start_ with rebadging.

Fucking chevy cobalt and Pontiac g6

Because trying to get away from that immediately would be unfeasible

Especially with GM's 1990s and 2000s finance woes

But

You do so by doing what Lincoln is currently doing.

Okay, I'm going to be honest: i'm not really interested in this conversation <:super_edgy:426099058466095119>

Sorry, I just find most big manufacturers to be bloated corporations with no hope

...Then... _sigh_ okay fine. Not bothered that you're not interested, but this seems a long way to go when you don't care.

Eh, you go on thinking that.

I know I'm sorry! XD

I mean they have huge issues, sure

But they literally always have

My perspective is a bit different. My family's not exactly a dynasty within any of the companies, but we have a lot of people who have had whole careers in one company or the other.

They've always been fucked

I only buy Japanese now